Ships & Modules

This is flat out painful to read.

Thank you grey now for my tracking dread , owning noobs.

P.s : Gonna test ratting with one in a sanctum in test server.

Yup, that movie just proves one thing that 99,9% of all power bloc pilots are pretty dumb.. and no dreads are not the next best blapping tool not by a long shoot and CCP solution for titan damage is a freaking joke no offense but with the way they are now they wont be seen on the battlefield anymore because they have no role anymore anti-capital weapon? Don't joke with me a anti-capital weapon that can only be used every 10 minutes is the same as no anti-capital weapon at all. XL turrets? Seriously? Have you seen the damage they do now to carrier pilots who get skirmish bonus and plug in a booster drug..

I'm not saying that titans where fine the way they where until now but now you've removed them from the battlefield which is stupid because a titan is a combat ship right? So how long will we have to wait for a real solution to titans? 6 months or 3 years? I'd like to know because in my eye making the biggest ship in eve *undesirable* kinda defeats the purpose of having it in the game in the first place.

The bitterness is strong.

A solo tracking dread was brought in for additional DPS against shield-tanked, perma-MWDing BCs. It still killed far fewer than the support fleet, despite having roughly the same DPS (19 Tengus firing EM missiles vs. a 3 heatsink + T2 dmg rig Rev w/ T2 siege module). You probably aren't going to see a massive subcapital holocaust thanks to tracking dreads any time soon.

have you ever heard of power creep? what youre talking about isnt power creep, its power leap

Allow me to illustrate, right now, the drake has more EHP and better or equal damage projection as all the other battlecruisers, as well as having an easy time fitting things.

With your idea of never nerfing a ship you would have them buff every other battlecruiser to the drake's level . . . but then what happens to cruisers? they get left behind, so you have to buff them too . . . then battleships become not worth their cost, so you have to buff them too, then dreads are too easily killed by subcaps, so they need a buff . . .

I agree that the titan should be an anti blob ship, but the ability to instantly guarantee the destruction of every subcap on the grid is too powerful, and yes, 4x DD basically guarantees that.

They literally never saw combat when they had that ability, all they were ever used for was bridging and drive-by DDs. Rather I think they should apply an AOE E-war effect to all ships on grid based on their racial e-war with the DD skill reducing its effectiveness on your fleet. This way, they wouldnt be a fleet unto themselves, they would just make your fleet way more effective. I believe that supercaps should never be able to be a homogenous fleet.

first step towards owning a titan is leaving hisec

Yes, I understand all you are saying here. I stand by my belief that we are better off to have ships which are superior (including AOE DD titans) stay that way. Small, incremental evolutionary improvements to other ships is the way to address this.

DDs are meant to be too powerful. They should stay that way. The way to address that is to have some subcaps acquire an ability to survive. In any case, the concepts around AOE weapons are just wrong. There is no way a small ship should take the same amount of damage as a larger ship - the amount of damage taken should be proportional to the size of the ship, as the profile of the ship would determine this. And this would be all you need to allow small ships to survive an AOE DD attack.

Why do you think your beliefs about whether a ship can or cannot do something or ever should be able to define the game? The game should be defined by simple rules, where ships, weapons, skills, etc, are organised and wielded by the players in as innovative way possible, and if you don't like the fact that they can do something, find a way to counter that. If dealing with a DD is too hard, then don't go near titans in a subcap.

Go grab a trasher and suicide someone in jita and leave the forums to others thanks.

Simply disdaining or ignoring other players' wishes and views does nothing to engender positive progress in the game. If CCP continues to implement changes to the game that suit a vocal minority who would prefer a bland, uninteresting universe of more or less equal ships which only show distinction by being in larger blobs which win the fight by simple numbers, then players like myself will leave the game never to return. Ultimately, this would mean the game would be populated only by those players who prefer that type of game universe, and the game will suffer. EVE started off with the richness of variety, in roles, sizes, techniques, weaponry and tactics. This is what attracted me to the game. Without all that, the game isn't worth the money I'm paying for my four accounts. I would be better off elsewhere, and while you may believe that would be no loss, when you have noone else to fight but the likes of yourselves, you may wish for the days when there was a bit more variety. And CCP may wish for the days when they had a lot more subscribers.

Whether or not that would be good for the game is a matter of opinion, in this case yours. There would be others who believe otherwise, and like me, see AOE Doomsdays as one of the things that made the game more interesting. Just because you and your friends don't like something doesn't mean that it's wrong. The fact that you think it is makes it obvious you continue to miss the point I'm making.

And you're right, I probably never will own a Titan. I can't see the point anymore.