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OH god,.... the morphite!!

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Gizan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#141 - 2012-05-03 03:10:51 UTC
lets see, at current lowest sell order for minerals (morphite was ticked at 11.4)k in jita, a maxed out hulk with maxed rorqual bonus, mines

A - 52/55/58
B - 51/43/45
C - 39/40/43
M - 78/82/86

i used the hulk for the simple fact that with the rorqual bonus, you can tank the gas cloud that forms, also the range is longer.
Gizan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#142 - 2012-05-03 03:14:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Gizan
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
Well, back in post #26, I speculated that a T2 skiff could mine about 4200 units/hr w/ Orca/Rorqual support:




maxed skiff with t2 everything with rorqual bonus is 2146m3/cycle every 104 seconds.

thats 53 units/cycle and 34 cycles/hour, so 1802/hour not 4200.

1802*24,161(ore value) = 43.5m/hour with maxed skiff.

so your isk/hour is correct but your ore yeild/hour is wrong.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#143 - 2012-05-04 03:50:02 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
Well, back in post #26, I speculated that a T2 skiff could mine about 4200 units/hr w/ Orca/Rorqual support:

ISK/u = ISK/hr
10k = 42.0M/hr
13k = 54.6M/hr
15k = 63.0M/hr
20k = 84.0M/hr
25k = 105.0M/hr
30k = 126.0M/hr

So if the high-end ABCs get stuck in the 300-350 ISK/m3 range (about 45-50M/hr for a Orca/Rorqual supported Hulk), then that would probably mean Morphite in the 10-13k ISK/u range. If we see the high-end ABC ores get up into the 450-500 ISK/m3 range (70-75M/hr), then 15-18k ISK/u is more likely.

Like corestwo, it's going to oscillate wildly for a while. And it will depend whether it's a "junk" ore needed to clear the anom.

I got caught with buy orders in the 14k ISK/u range... oops.


"it's going to oscillate wildly for a while"
That introduces the added dynamic of manipulation. Something we see more and more of as players build up huge stocks of ISK.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#144 - 2012-05-04 13:47:02 UTC
The 4200 units per hour is Morphite units/hr (not Mercx).
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#145 - 2012-05-04 13:47:41 UTC
The oscillations don't have much to do with manipulation, really. Miners piled into the market, driving prices down, people panicked and drove them further, prices rise again as people think it's a safe bet and then fall again as people try to get out again, and so on. Eventually incidental supply from mining becomes large enough to serve as a damper on prices and, in all likelihood, keep them low.

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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#146 - 2012-05-04 13:59:07 UTC
corestwo wrote:
The oscillations don't have much to do with manipulation, really. Miners piled into the market, driving prices down, people panicked and drove them further, prices rise again as people think it's a safe bet and then fall again as people try to get out again, and so on. Eventually incidental supply from mining becomes large enough to serve as a damper on prices and, in all likelihood, keep them low.

Some of it has been from manipulation, yesterday when the morphite price dropped to 8k per unit it was the same person posting orders in stacks of ~50k. Undercutting himself by considerable amounts on each order to lower the price.

Same thing happened with Zydrine the day before that, albeit less successfully. They didn't even bother using different characters for all the orders, so it was pretty unsubtle of them.

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Toma Muvila
Zero Hour Contracts
#147 - 2012-06-05 14:13:35 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
-Hemmo read about the zydrine bubble some time ago
-Hemmo felt genius and thought he should copy the exact same thing 3 weeks later and create a morphite bubble
-Hemmo failed at giving convincingly reasons why morphite should become that rare

...what happened in this Thread


tbh in rl i am a genius, skipped 4 classed, got 2 degrees allready & only 1 yr to go before im master in business mangament, economics and marketing. I un fortualy belong to the top 1% of ppl that is simply smarter.. not that it is something that i wish to other ppl, its more a pain than a gain.

anyhow, ppl were allready buying up so lets call it a strategic move to prevent hugh stocks to be hamstered. therefor i love all the ppl that scream that it isnt going up more while ppl at sametime saying it is. this prevents ppl from taking the risk or gamble. result is lesser hamstered & sooner i can sell my stuff when prices are more stable by supply & demand.

next lesson isnt free


Seriously what? Don't you know how easy it is to get a degree how these days how does getting 2 followed by a MBA make you a genius??

I was enjoying reading through this thread (ABC / Merco mining is something that interests me...) until this comment.