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Jafit
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-03-27 11:24:50 UTC
Quincey Maricadie wrote:

So basically you are saying that i shouldn't trust no one?
I haven't actually saw any trailers for EVE so i won't be yearning for stuff that has happened in the trailers.
Of course i will remember that it's just a game, drawing a conclusion from your last sentence EVE has a big potential to suck players life out?


Not trusting people is a good starting point. There are so many stories of betrayal in this game. If something looks too good to be true then it probably is.

I recommend watching the trailers, they're very well produced and grossly misrepresent Eve's gameplay.

Eve does have a potential to take over a person's life if you lose perspective, but that can be said for anything. You invest a lot of time and effort getting a big shiny ship and someone blows it up, it's understandable that you'll be upset. Bad things will (should) happen to you during the course of your Eve life, you just have to have the mental state that allows you to remain detached and laugh at the bad things while enjoying the good things, otherwise Eve isn't much fun in my opinion.
Quincey Maricadie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-03-27 11:25:17 UTC
Ezurae wrote:
Quincey Maricadie wrote:
Terminal Insanity wrote:
NOOB!

But seriously, my biggest recommendation is do NOT get suckered into some small corp. Do NOT 'get in on the ground floor'. You will spend years there.


What is bad about the smaller corporations? I've not an experienced MMO player by any means and i haven't really been interested in guilds or corporations, but this time i decided to try what it would be like.


joining a small corp can be very interesting. When I started eve i joined a small corp of some friends i knew from another game. I really dont see much of a problem with smaller corps. You have fewer people but you get to know them a lot better than the people in some big corp. With time the corporation will grow and have more success and being part of that process is really fun.

If you join a big corp/alliance especially in the beginning its easy to feel kind of lost between all those members because there are just too many. I think especially in the beginning a small corp is a lot better to get to know the game and the people. You'll get friends ingame faster that way. Ofc i have to say that not every small corp is worth joining and you have to do your research before you join them because there are some small corps that just get nothing done and were the CEOs or Directors just have no clue about the game ;-). Anyways for the beginning i'd join a small corp, see how that goes and maybe later switch to a bigger one or check out factional warfare or RvB when you got the hang of the game



The corporation that i'm currently in has somewhere around 30~ players, the leaders seem to know their stuff, and every has been really helpful and there doesn't seem to be any players with an attitude problems which is really good. Plus it seems that most of us are living in Scandinavia or in the same time zones which is also good. It has been also kinda weird when we have shared everything 50/50 when we have mined or done anything else even though most of them have a ship with 5 mining lasers in it and some of us have only one or two.
Quincey Maricadie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-03-27 11:33:26 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Quincey Maricadie wrote:
So basically you are saying that i shouldn't trust no one?
I haven't actually saw any trailers for EVE so i won't be yearning for stuff that has happened in the trailers.
Of course i will remember that it's just a game, drawing a conclusion from your last sentence EVE has a big potential to suck players life out?

Scamming, stealing, backstabbing, all valid tactics in eve. There are many trustworthy people out there, but also many pirates! Pirate

If you lend or give anyone anything, you cant be guarenteed you'll ever get it back again. People will give you offers that sound too good to be true, and usually are.

For the most part, you can trust your corp/alliance members. Most corps have OK security. But all of that is what makes eve awesome. You can literally do whatever you want. Play good or evil. Be a pirate, or hunt the pirates. Mine rocks all day long or build spaceships and trade them. Whatever you decide to do, be aware there is someone out there doing the opposite of you =)



That's sounds extremely awesome, i like the sound of this uncertainty, there is no penalties for players to screw other players up? If not, then good.
malaire
#24 - 2012-03-27 11:40:29 UTC  |  Edited by: malaire
Quincey Maricadie wrote:
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Quincey Maricadie wrote:
So basically you are saying that i shouldn't trust no one?
I haven't actually saw any trailers for EVE so i won't be yearning for stuff that has happened in the trailers.
Of course i will remember that it's just a game, drawing a conclusion from your last sentence EVE has a big potential to suck players life out?

Scamming, stealing, backstabbing, all valid tactics in eve. There are many trustworthy people out there, but also many pirates! Pirate

If you lend or give anyone anything, you cant be guarenteed you'll ever get it back again. People will give you offers that sound too good to be true, and usually are.

For the most part, you can trust your corp/alliance members. Most corps have OK security. But all of that is what makes eve awesome. You can literally do whatever you want. Play good or evil. Be a pirate, or hunt the pirates. Mine rocks all day long or build spaceships and trade them. Whatever you decide to do, be aware there is someone out there doing the opposite of you =)



That's sounds extremely awesome, i like the sound of this uncertainty, there is no penalties for players to screw other players up? If not, then good.

For many things, no.

There are penalties for some things, e.g. attacking someone in highsec who you are not allowed to attack makes CONCORD police kill you, and you lose some "security status".

EDIT: Also do remember that you can't change your character name. One of the biggest "penalties" from screwing others can be bad reputation which will allways follow that character. But then you can allways make new character if you really want ...

New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#25 - 2012-03-27 11:44:22 UTC
Quincey Maricadie wrote:
Jafit wrote:
Quincey Maricadie wrote:
1. Is there any hazards other than players and hostile npcs


Yes. You. You are the biggest danger in the game. Your own bad decisions cost you more than any other player or NPC ever can. You are the one who decides to take an officer fit Golem into nullsec without support. You are the one who decides to give all of your assets to the Goon 'recruitment officer' who says he's running a totally legit free jumpfreighter service. You are the one who clicks on contracts posted in Jita local. You are the one who sells your faction battleship for 295k. You are the one who signs up to Blink and wastes billions on lotteries that are rigged for new players to win so that they get sucked in just like you did.

Your own inhibitions are also, in my opinion, one the biggest threats you will face. "Just one more mission, then I'll be ready to play the game that I saw in the trailers". "Oh, maybe I'll wait until I can fly a better ship before trying the part of the game that I actually want to play"... Before you know it you've wasted years shooting red crosses, and despite all your skills you still know nothing about the game.

Good luck newbro. Never forget, it's just a game.



So basically you are saying that i shouldn't trust no one?
I haven't actually saw any trailers for EVE so i won't be yearning for stuff that has happened in the trailers.
Of course i will remember that it's just a game, drawing a conclusion from your last sentence EVE has a big potential to suck players life out?


Have you ever heared the proverb about Poker games?

"If you sit down at a poker game and you can't see a guy who's obviously the chump, then you are the chump."

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Quincey Maricadie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-03-27 11:46:51 UTC
[quote=malaire ...[/quote]

Yes i will remember that, however i couldn't do something like that to a other player, i would hate that if someone would scam me or anything that would go into the category of griefing, my golden rule at everything is that i don't to anything to others that i wouldn't like to be done to me.
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#27 - 2012-03-27 11:50:48 UTC
Welcome to Eve. Be paranoid at all times. The most important thing you can do is find a good corporation. Never pay to get into a corporation. Do not (in my opinion) give your full API key to get into a corporation. I don't think you need a large corporation - the important thing is to find the right people. Some prefer the large corp, some hate it. Anyway remember that you are not your ship, or even your pod. It's okay to get killed, don't let it sour you on the game as happens to some new players, particularly those used to themepark games where death is meaningless.

Beware of scams. If something seems to good to be true, it is. The scammer is probably using some game mechanic you are unfamiliar with to get away with it. Check, double check and read the warnings.

All that said, Eve is a game like no other. Enjoy.

No good deed goes unpunished
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2012-03-27 11:51:15 UTC
Quincey Maricadie wrote:


Yes i will remember that, however i couldn't do something like that to a other player, i would hate that if someone would scam me or anything that would go into the category of griefing, my golden rule at everything is that i don't to anything to others that i wouldn't like to be done to me.

Thats not going to stop them =)

In monopoly, your mother lands on your Boardwalk with a hotel. Do you give her a free pass? Its all part of the game. Try not to take it all seriously.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#29 - 2012-03-27 12:04:45 UTC
Good thing is that you don't have to be an arse to succeed.

You don't have to actively search for helpless targets, there are plenty of those that shoot back. You don't have to scam to get rich, at least no more than normal corporations do in RL :D

But yeah don't get mad if you get scammed, get even. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose, and don't get mad to others if you do that. It's pretty easy to avoid both, just keep your wits with you.

Also, there is much less faggotry outside hisec, sooner you get out of there the better. Outside hisec the law of the jungle is in effect, weak ones get eaten, strong ones fight for territory... but without animosity, it's in good spirit.

Proper EVE pilots exchange "Good fights" in local chat after combat, whether they win or lose.

(I leave Falcon alts for him to discover later :D )

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SerialTurd
Ardent Industrial
#30 - 2012-03-27 12:47:37 UTC
Go to a 0.0 or low sec system with the sole intention of picking a fight. You need to understand this is a pvp game and you can die anytime, anywhere. Once you get that out of your system and are ok with death, you will enjoy the game much more.
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