EVE General Discussion

You are a brave faceless troll aren't you?

Allow me to start another post with the already stated, right now, it doesn't matter if the comments were made in character, out of character or anywhere in the middle, the harm was done precisely after this was blown out of proportion into the media.

The fact is, it was a public presentation, to a multitude of viewers, press, players, and all kind in the stream. Was there a majority ? yes, players without a doubt, but the minority press have probably more power than any of the other groups representations viewing fanfest as the person in question as a CSM knows very well the power it has to influence both opinion and decisions.

Many keep arguing with the fallacy that 'nothing happened to the subject, thus no harm done', well, let me repeat, it's a fallacy, and Alex (the lawyer) knows very well, there was intent (regardless of his condition which he proudly states it's no excuse), and intent is enough to make someone liable for. We live in a free world, but we are also responsible for our actions and words. If I would stage an assassination attempt, which would fail and be discovered soon after, should I be forgiven just because I failed my initial intention ? I know, as I said before it's a bit of an exaggeration but it's an analogy to demonstrate that the real issue at hand is not the final consequence (if he did or not suicide) but the actions that may lead to the consequence, and this, only this in my (trying to be unbiased) point of view is the real issue.

Granted many are taking advantage of this issue to try and get rid of an enormous power figure, and others try to dismiss this as something trivial to try and get the whole thing to go away like if it was nothing (Vile Rat for instance) to try and get the heat away or others are plainly die hard zealots that will follow him anywhere, and most are doing more harm than good to be honest, on themselves, since many get to be portrayed as actual sociopaths (really ? cyber bullying is only considered cyber bullying after something hazardous happens, you sir need medical attention) or just showing how biased and clouded their judgement is towards the subject and are in particular places of influence where personal unbiased judgement is called for.

Now, personally (I hope people get to this paragraph before shooting the guns at me), I never really cared much about Mittens/The Mittani, there are amusing moments, he did awfully good to this game by using the exact same thing that's going to hammer him right now against CCP (press) to shift their focus on to what we want and to what matters and in game as a player, I don't really care much if he's The Overlord Mittani and I truly believe it's actually irrelevant right now.

The big issue is, CCP and Alex (the person) are in a double edged sword, on one side we have CCP, basically an entity that will be portrayed as weak at the eyes of the press to give in to the pressure of a good amount of the player base in a subject which is so delicate right now in the Information Technology age which is the person interactions over the internet, plus, in a public event sponsored by the said company, this is really really delicate for CCP, one bad move and they can be portrayed as allowing and promoting unethical behaviour on their player base, specially giving the latest problems by activists promoting the ban on violent games stating they shape the character of the young ones.

On the other side, there's Alex, the person, the guy who clearly has seen he screwed up, badly, I mean, terribly, and is in a crossroad, I can't imagine what's going on in his head, he either get's to be seen as something horrible who managed to have more influence in a gaming company than the company directors/share holders (whatever who makes the decisions) or another punishment which honestly will have to be hard.

I know what I would do, there needs to be a punishment, and preferably one that makes CCP look good to the press, I would probably try to damage control with CCP the press for starters, then would quit one seat, either goon CEO or CSM and live on with it. Truth be told, any of this options won't change anything in the long term at all, he would still have his enormous influence over the game (directly to CCP) or over the corp (through alts of friends), the only thing lost (at least in short term) would be his public figure, that would be his punishment, something he actually likes a lot and values, to be in the news, and the news.

Best regards,

Likes on a forum that doesn't allow dislikes are meaningless

102 pages and no Lady Harlot?

Damn, that alone is refreshing.

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Likes received: 1,512

The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Likes received: 6,990

HAX!

this really looks like a 100% clean factor.

http://i.imgur.com/w6WrT.png

specially after seeing that 1 ..
guess posting stuff only works from one side when your a goonie.

Jade - you've always been a conspiracy theorist when it comes to EVE (remember when you thought Teutonic Guard were the puppet masters of Providence in 2010?), so I'm sorry: having a few Likes on an internet spacehships forum does not make you a representative of said internet spaceships community.

Being an effective CSM member does, though. Oh, wait: you tried that, and failed miserably.

I'd like to say something along the line of "Dates are hard" here, by which I'd be implying that you are inable to figure out that those tweets were from last year when some guy got really really upset that sometimes adults get drunk and swear but that might be classed as cyber bullying so I won't.

The reason the forum doesn't allow dislikes is :goons: because having the ability to downvote a post would lead to the kind of mob-posting goons are known for. By allowing upvotes "likes" only then you promote a system where its only possible to compete with other posters by posting better yourself rather than organizing a numbers based down vote campaign. But then you know this already.

Hahaha I love it....anime avatar LOL