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Shogun Archer
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1201 - 2012-03-27 07:55:15 UTC
Acwron wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
..................................................



These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS.

BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO.



Actually, genius, what he DID was use words.

If you run into more than 2 a**holes in a day, you should probably look in the mirror.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1202 - 2012-03-27 07:55:20 UTC
Acwron wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
..................................................



These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS.

BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO.


neither you nor the raiden/ncdot badposters in this thread care about the dude in question, the incident or anything, it's just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf

also you should have watched the fanfest presentation he showed everyone your tears

shame that he didn't name you

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Vile rat
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1203 - 2012-03-27 07:55:24 UTC
Spectre80 wrote:
actions speak louder than words. anybody can write apology letter.



So what you're saying is he doesn't have your vote next time?
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1204 - 2012-03-27 07:56:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Axe
Words are meaningless! Except those words you used that caused all of this bull, those words weren't. These ones are though!


Andski wrote:
neither you nor the raiden/ncdot badposters in this thread care about the dude in question, the incident or anything, it's just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf


The smoske parallels makes them remember the good ol' days when they were relevant.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
BrokenBC
no tax's are us
#1205 - 2012-03-27 07:56:17 UTC
Break out the pitch torks and forchs there's gonna be a lynchin.Holy christ you people need to get a life.
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1206 - 2012-03-27 07:56:58 UTC
Vile rat wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Vile rat wrote:
If he resigns he throws away the votes of over 10,000 subscribers who chose him to represent them to CCP.

He said some dumb ****, he apologized for it, move on. If anything he should apologize for being horribly unfunny and for giving a really lazy presentation EvilEvilEvilEvil

10,000 subscriptions*

Probably closer to 4,000 or less subscribers.


Is there a difference?
Continuum fallacy

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Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#1207 - 2012-03-27 07:57:11 UTC
Acwron wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
..................................................



These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS.

BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO.


Wait what? So his words wernt facts, but what he said was words, therefore also not facts, his apology was words, not facts so his original words were in fact not fact? So none of this actually happened?

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1208 - 2012-03-27 07:57:29 UTC
Amity Lane wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Amity Lane wrote:
Fact #1: The Mittani said he was going to resign.

Fact #2: The Mittani has not resigned.

Still waiting on an explanation here.


You do realize he's just resigning the chair right?

And that he can only do so on the suffrage of the other CSM members?

Interesting how now it's just "resigning the chair", and not his CSM position.

I guess since he wasn't explicit earlier this isn't technically revisionism, but I think to pretty much everyone it was implied that he was going to be resigning his CSM position.

We've been lawyer'd, it seems. Interesting.


No, like so much of what you and you ilk have been braying for this whole thread long (over what is essentially a non-issue blown out of proportion by gaming bloggers, certainly not a new concept if you are at all familiar with the way that gaming blogs work) you have created a vision of what YOU want to happen and then get disappointed when your vision doesn't come about. Yes, you still get to deal with the legally elected CSM Mittani and all of those terrible things that are going to make the game better for the rest of us that he is pushing. Face it, you and the rest of your hillariously misguided false rage club are upset that a second attempt at getting Mittens off the CSM roster is falling through. The election didn't work out for you, and here overblowing a non-event overblown already in some rather poor quality blogs (never was a fan of Massively or their like in the first place and their spotty coverage of this issue doesn't help improve their image with me either) in a ploy to push for resignation isn't going to work either. What's the next plan? Chase him with a team of photographers to catch him playing other games than EVE?
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1209 - 2012-03-27 07:58:08 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
Acwron wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
..................................................



These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS.

BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO.


Wait what? So his words wernt facts, but what he said was words, therefore also not facts, his apology was words, not facts so his original words were in fact not fact? So none of this actually happened?


We aren't even here right now oh god what is going on

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Amity Lane
Hek Mining Association
#1210 - 2012-03-27 07:58:33 UTC
Andski wrote:
(snip)
just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf
(snip)

Interesting how the only mention of Titan nerfs in any of these MittaniGate threads are in accusations such as this.
Mokanor Lenak
Odd Fluffy Bunnies
#1211 - 2012-03-27 07:58:46 UTC
Vile rat wrote:
As the person who sat with him at the fish restaurant a day before his presentation going over his notes I can field this one a little bit. I mean either take what I'm saying at face value or not, it doesn't matter much, but I'm not really known for making stuff up so here you go.


It wasn't somebody trying to be edgy or even king of space'y, or was somebody trying to be funny and not realizing that what is funny to some could be really insulting to others. The whole alliance presentation was a disaster before it even began because it consisted of unfunny chatlogs being read aloud which wasn't terribly helpful, but you should have seen the thread he posted looking for ideas on our forum which wasn't a whole lot of help either. So he collected what we found funny as a subgroup of eve, tears in chatlogs, and read them to show what kinds of letters he gets in response to our in game activities by people who take the game way too seriously.

The guy who got super mad that we blew up his spaceship did in fact send him a letter full of drama saying he was going to do this or that and frankly Mittens should have forwarded it to CCP and authorities so the guy could have had his account banned and received the proper help if he really needed it. It was a poor choice of logs to read aloud during this event for many reasons, but for many of us the biggest reason is reading chatlogs isn't funny. It's not entertaining. Who the hell wants to hear some dude read a bunch of logs?

I think he should be banned from giving Alliance presentations for those reasons but he's done a fantastic job as a CSM and that should be the end of it.


Its great that he does a good job in CSM and has a good reputation among friends.
But its enough to do one small (or big) bad thing to kill all that reputation and smear his name forever.

For the rest of it, poor choice of letters or chat logs, he should have been more careful, and saying that just for getting some laughts,that is just as sad.
As a CSM chairman and someone who consider himself as a leader and decision maker in the game, he should have known better. Drunk and joking are bad excuses for that.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1212 - 2012-03-27 07:59:08 UTC
Lord Grantham wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Vile rat wrote:
If he resigns he throws away the votes of over 10,000 subscribers who chose him to represent them to CCP.

He said some dumb ****, he apologized for it, move on. If anything he should apologize for being horribly unfunny and for giving a really lazy presentation EvilEvilEvilEvil

10,000 subscriptions*

Probably closer to 4,000 or less subscribers.


I don't think you can vote if you are not currently subscribed.

I don't think you understand my point.

Individuals can cast more than one vote, you know. Seeing as they can hold more than one account.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1213 - 2012-03-27 07:59:53 UTC
Spectre80 wrote:
actions speak louder than words. anybody can write apology letter.

I agree, that's why he gave the dude over 10b isk (all the isk in his - the mittani's wallet).

There's not much more he can do to show that he is genuinely apologetic for offending anyone.

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orphenshadow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1214 - 2012-03-27 08:00:12 UTC  |  Edited by: orphenshadow
Snow Axe wrote:
Words are meaningless! Except those words you used that caused all of this bull, those words weren't. These ones are though!


Andski wrote:
neither you nor the raiden/ncdot badposters in this thread care about the dude in question, the incident or anything, it's just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf


The smoske parallels makes them remember the good ol' days when they were relevant.


Yes, but these words fuel our agenda.. those words don't fit into the agenda so they are meaningless.
Shogun Archer
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1215 - 2012-03-27 08:00:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Shogun Archer
Acwron wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
..................................................



These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS.

BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO.



Seriously man, changing it up a little bit doesn't make it any better. I'd quit trying.

Edit: Oh... NM. I'm confused. Feel like I just got hit with a stupid stick. My bad.

If you run into more than 2 a**holes in a day, you should probably look in the mirror.
Zhade Lezte
#1216 - 2012-03-27 08:00:41 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Words are meaningless! Except those words you used that caused all of this bull, those words weren't. These ones are though!


Not empty quoting.
Josef Djugashvilis
#1217 - 2012-03-27 08:01:31 UTC
In his hour of need, what would really help mittens would be if his idiot goon supporters laid off the spiteful posts.

This is not a signature.
Acwron
Meet The Fockers
#1218 - 2012-03-27 08:01:39 UTC
Andski wrote:
Acwron wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
..................................................



These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS.

BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO.


neither you nor the raiden/ncdot badposters in this thread care about the dude in question, the incident or anything, it's just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf

also you should have watched the fanfest presentation he showed everyone your tears

shame that he didn't name you


Actually people care but you're blinded by the plex mittani is giving you every month for writing so many posts. I do understand you in a way... BUT IS WRONG !

Get mittens out of here on the back door.
David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1219 - 2012-03-27 08:02:44 UTC
Mokanor Lenak wrote:
Vile rat wrote:
As the person who sat with him at the fish restaurant a day before his presentation going over his notes I can field this one a little bit. I mean either take what I'm saying at face value or not, it doesn't matter much, but I'm not really known for making stuff up so here you go.


It wasn't somebody trying to be edgy or even king of space'y, or was somebody trying to be funny and not realizing that what is funny to some could be really insulting to others. The whole alliance presentation was a disaster before it even began because it consisted of unfunny chatlogs being read aloud which wasn't terribly helpful, but you should have seen the thread he posted looking for ideas on our forum which wasn't a whole lot of help either. So he collected what we found funny as a subgroup of eve, tears in chatlogs, and read them to show what kinds of letters he gets in response to our in game activities by people who take the game way too seriously.

The guy who got super mad that we blew up his spaceship did in fact send him a letter full of drama saying he was going to do this or that and frankly Mittens should have forwarded it to CCP and authorities so the guy could have had his account banned and received the proper help if he really needed it. It was a poor choice of logs to read aloud during this event for many reasons, but for many of us the biggest reason is reading chatlogs isn't funny. It's not entertaining. Who the hell wants to hear some dude read a bunch of logs?

I think he should be banned from giving Alliance presentations for those reasons but he's done a fantastic job as a CSM and that should be the end of it.


Its great that he does a good job in CSM and has a good reputation among friends.
But its enough to do one small (or big) bad thing to kill all that reputation and smear his name forever.

For the rest of it, poor choice of letters or chat logs, he should have been more careful, and saying that just for getting some laughts,that is just as sad.
As a CSM chairman and someone who consider himself as a leader and decision maker in the game, he should have known better. Drunk and joking are bad excuses for that.


Great, so we've reached the point that everyone else seems to be missing. Mittens is guilty of trying to make a funny off-hand comment and failing to be funny. Clearly unfunny people are not to be allowed onto our super serious space government panel.
Shogun Archer
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1220 - 2012-03-27 08:03:08 UTC
Acwron wrote:
Andski wrote:
Acwron wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
..................................................



These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS.

BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO.


neither you nor the raiden/ncdot badposters in this thread care about the dude in question, the incident or anything, it's just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf

also you should have watched the fanfest presentation he showed everyone your tears

shame that he didn't name you


Actually people care but you're blinded by the plex mittani is giving you every month for writing so many posts. I do understand you in a way... BUT IS WRONG !

Get mittens out of here on the back door.



oooooohhhh. So it's not about the poor guy who's dpressed??? It's about THE PLEX !!!!

If you run into more than 2 a**holes in a day, you should probably look in the mirror.