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My Apology

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Shandir
Indigo Archive
#101 - 2012-03-27 00:32:09 UTC
I respect your apology but find it entirely within the persona you have created and which your fans adore, to post a public apology simultaneously with a goon-forum repudation of the apology and further attacks on any who disagree with you.
Your actions will determine how genuine this is, and offering your resignation from the CSM is the step that will make your apology have weight that does not feel like a politician's pseudo-apology.
Killer Gandry
Fabritech Engineering
Spectrum Alliance
#102 - 2012-03-27 00:32:25 UTC
I don't know if the appology is meant or just a facade. I also don't care if it is.

Old american saying : Don't want to do time? Don't do the crime.
The fact 10,058 accounts voted for you is no reason to accept a mere appology without further consequences.

I don't mean RL consequences like some people stutter. That has nothing to do with EVE as a whole.
However you have damaged the credibility of EVE and the CSM as organisation by your actions and as such a penalty should be in place.

Seeing you have a large blockvote the removal from the CSM isn't really in the best intrest of CCP, nor should it be for the EVE players which voted for you.
But the chair might be not the best place for you and as such I would suggest to take another position within the CSM and leave the chair to someone who isn't as tainted as you are at the moment.

Jogyn
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#103 - 2012-03-27 00:32:26 UTC
Seleene, mark, superman Cool
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#104 - 2012-03-27 00:32:32 UTC
Akelorian wrote:
"I'm sorry your honor, I was intoxicated when I got into that accident, I promise never to drink and drive again, I didn't kill anybody but can I go free now?"

I'm sorry being drunk is not an excuse.

Nice try Mittani

Neither is you guys killing RoyOfCA.
Zain Andreas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#105 - 2012-03-27 00:32:51 UTC
Aiden Andraste wrote:
Chairman of my heart~

EDIT: DONT ******* RESIGN YOU GLORIOUS *******!


not emptyquoting
Voith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2012-03-27 00:32:52 UTC
Akelorian wrote:
"I'm sorry your honor, I was intoxicated when I got into that accident, I promise never to drink and drive again, I didn't kill anybody but can I go free now?"

I'm sorry being drunk is not an excuse.

Nice try Mittani

Crying about The Mittani won't bring LV and BoB back nubblet.
Ai Shun
#107 - 2012-03-27 00:33:07 UTC
Voith wrote:
The Mittani you're an idiot for apologizing.

It won't stop people from doxing or harassing you. The opposition has nothing to do with what you said and everything to do with who you are a successful member of the CSM and a goon.



Maybe he didn't apologise to stop them harassing them, but because he felt it was the right thing to do?
Tergerom Loregeron
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#108 - 2012-03-27 00:33:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Tergerom Loregeron
Cool. Something as dumb as this has been blown way out of proportion. Way to go everyone, here's your moral crusader badge. Now go donate everything you have to all the Starving children in Africa. Make sure you stop buying all the electronic products you use on a daily basis, they are made in abhorrent conditions which pay next to nothing. Make sure you stop wearing your brand name clothes, those are crafted for measly cents by workers in poor countries for practically nothing. Make sure you stop buying chocolate or diamonds.



Give me a ******* break, there's a variety of things you people can waste your energy bitching about and YOU ALL CHOOSE THIS?


**** YOU





Also, snipe
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2012-03-27 00:33:29 UTC
Dar Saleem wrote:
insincere apology = fake apology.




It only counts as sincere if he actually resigns from the CSM like he indicated on his twitter.

Thats why its not face value for me right now.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **

RoyalV
Intergalactic Space Papacy
The Bastion
#110 - 2012-03-27 00:34:45 UTC
A great apology from a great person!
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#111 - 2012-03-27 00:34:47 UTC
Venus Vermillion wrote:
Darius III wrote:
I have to question the sincerity of this apology after reading your earlier posts about the incident. ~100058~. You said on twiter you were resigning, was that a troll? I highly doubt you would care one iota if not for the public outcry. You have brought shame and dishonor to CCP, CSm abd the entire Eve community. Do the right thing and step down from CSM.


He's waiting for you to resign first, D3. You're the one who actually violated the rules, he just did something he feels bad about... he admits it... but you...



+1 Darius version 3 is still the worst. How did he get there again?
Bacchanalian
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#112 - 2012-03-27 00:34:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Bacchanalian
Jade Constantine wrote:
Respect for the apology, you seem sincere there Alex. But I think for the good of the CSM project going forwards and for CCP's reputation in the wider gaming press you should resign as Chair at the minimum and allow another CSM member to take responsibility for leading the player council this year.

The CSM needs a leader with the respect of the player base at this point. You no longer have it.

Eve is coming to a far better state it was in the previous year and the future looks very optimistic. The last thing any of us need is to be reading about cyber-bullying and out of character abuse at fanfest when everyone involved with eve on the player or CCP side just needs to put the bad times behind us and get on with promoting and playing this game.

You worked in the interests of the player base last year Alex alongside the Jita and unsub protests to help CCP turn the ship around and sail out from under the spectre of microtransaction-crazy disaster. Let that be your legacy.

Now its time to resign as chair and let somebody else take a turn.


Disagree tbh, nevermind that I did it and not him. It wasn't something that he should step down over. This is EVE Online, not Hello Kitty Online. People get buttmad in EVE over their internet space pixels, and this is no exception.
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#113 - 2012-03-27 00:35:00 UTC
Akelorian wrote:
"I'm sorry your honor, I was intoxicated when I got into that accident, I promise never to drink and drive again, I didn't kill anybody but can I go free now?"

I'm sorry being drunk is not an excuse.

Nice try Mittani


stop acting like you don't just have an axe to grind

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2012-03-27 00:35:01 UTC
The apology was appropriate. Please dont resign, and CCP please dont make him resign.

People do stupid things on occasion (especially when drunk), in this case stuff got blown way out of proportion by dumbshit media outlets desperate for page views. Having read the response from the individual in question (it found its way onto reddit) they seem to not care or are even maybe enjoying their 5 minutes of e-fame.

I suppose any final decision by CCP is up to a bunch of people who frankly dont give a rats ass about EVE aside from how much RL money it makes them, and the shareholders may see the bad publicity hurting their bottom line.
digi
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2012-03-27 00:35:08 UTC
Voith wrote:
The Mittani you're an idiot for apologizing.

It won't stop people from doxing or harassing you. The opposition has nothing to do with what you said and everything to do with who you are a successful member of the CSM and a goon.



Actions of that sort are very ill-advised.
Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
#116 - 2012-03-27 00:35:08 UTC
I'm a Raiden/PL/NCDot alt and I also demand Mittens step down as chairman of the CSM! I demand it because he doesn't have respect, honor, or the interests of the common players at heart. He said some terribad mean things and THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US BEING MAD AT THE TITAN NERF
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#117 - 2012-03-27 00:35:47 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Venus Vermillion wrote:
Darius III wrote:
I have to question the sincerity of this apology after reading your earlier posts about the incident. ~100058~. You said on twiter you were resigning, was that a troll? I highly doubt you would care one iota if not for the public outcry. You have brought shame and dishonor to CCP, CSm abd the entire Eve community. Do the right thing and step down from CSM.


He's waiting for you to resign first, D3. You're the one who actually violated the rules, he just did something he feels bad about... he admits it... but you...



+1 Darius version 3 is still the worst. How did he get there again?


I voted for him.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?

Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#118 - 2012-03-27 00:35:58 UTC
Bacchanalian wrote:
Also, proof that wouldn't post right earlier that Mittens is my alt: http://tinyurl.com/bsdr75f


Rote Kapelle are the true puppetmasters of EVE, I am not surprised in the slightest

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Fierceshot
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2012-03-27 00:36:00 UTC
It takes a huge pair to to give such an apology after this debacle.

Respect.
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#120 - 2012-03-27 00:36:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Eshtir
RougeOperator wrote:
Dar Saleem wrote:
insincere apology = fake apology.




It only counts as sincere if he actually resigns from the CSM like he indicated on his twitter.

Thats why its not face value for me right now.


He was being sarcastic *snip*