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RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4701 - 2012-03-31 20:36:42 UTC
Richard Aiel wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:


Yeah he says he wants to start a PR blitz to prove he is not a cyber bully, by cyber bullying people?

Im not sure if this is genius or madness now.


Its funny though, whats called cyberbullying everywhere else is called EVE to us

this thread is far more interesting if you hide post anyone with a Goon tag lol



Problem is Mittani is doing out of game stuff to get people to harass someone. AGAIN.

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GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4702 - 2012-03-31 20:41:32 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:


No, it isn't, (referring to it being CCP's fault because I feel dealing with this person I have to clarify everything.) and I will not deny that. But it has been dragged out much, much more than it should. Anyone, anyone who has had his real name dragged out would fight likewise.

I am not condoning the events that have made this happen, but i will condemn those that wish to make a media circus out of it above and beyond, only because it hurts CCP and the game we all play.


There would have been no major media circus if not for his ~deal with it~ then trying to cling to his CSM seat like a desperate dictator, followed by his twitter rantings and silly state of the goonian rant where he tries to balm everyone else and form hate, and eve Radio softball bullcrap he pulled and is trying to form hate against writers of blogs.

A real man would have said, I went to far i apologize, shut up about it all together. Accepted all punishment. Told his guys to let it go dont make it worse. Asked for some retractions on the fact IN PRIVATE and moved on with it.

Him and his followers are the ones that are making it a thing day in and out.


Its sick and he has only himself and his swarm to thank for it going so far out of control now.


I can only assume that you've never been in a situation like this before, but heyo, for the best part neither have I.

And, well, he doesn't own us; my feeling on all this have been made well aware in this thread.

It went out of control to the degree in part because of a media circus.

Heh, would like to carry this on with you personally in private.


No my close cousin only hung himself due to harassment. Never claimed i was not biased about this from the start FYI. But I try to make sure the logic of my points stands up under scrutiny because of my bias.


I'm genuinely sorry for your loss then. I really hope you, and your family will be ok. I know damn well how much this can hurt those you love.

But as for the logic; welp, if I'm honest, you seem to be witch-hunting.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4703 - 2012-03-31 20:45:59 UTC  |  Edited by: RougeOperator
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:


No, it isn't, (referring to it being CCP's fault because I feel dealing with this person I have to clarify everything.) and I will not deny that. But it has been dragged out much, much more than it should. Anyone, anyone who has had his real name dragged out would fight likewise.

I am not condoning the events that have made this happen, but i will condemn those that wish to make a media circus out of it above and beyond, only because it hurts CCP and the game we all play.


There would have been no major media circus if not for his ~deal with it~ then trying to cling to his CSM seat like a desperate dictator, followed by his twitter rantings and silly state of the goonian rant where he tries to balm everyone else and form hate, and eve Radio softball bullcrap he pulled and is trying to form hate against writers of blogs.

A real man would have said, I went to far i apologize, shut up about it all together. Accepted all punishment. Told his guys to let it go dont make it worse. Asked for some retractions on the fact IN PRIVATE and moved on with it.

Him and his followers are the ones that are making it a thing day in and out.


Its sick and he has only himself and his swarm to thank for it going so far out of control now.


I can only assume that you've never been in a situation like this before, but heyo, for the best part neither have I.

And, well, he doesn't own us; my feeling on all this have been made well aware in this thread.

It went out of control to the degree in part because of a media circus.

Heh, would like to carry this on with you personally in private.


No my close cousin only hung himself due to harassment. Never claimed i was not biased about this from the start FYI. But I try to make sure the logic of my points stands up under scrutiny because of my bias.


I'm genuinely sorry for your loss then. I really hope you, and your family will be ok. I know damn well how much this can hurt those you love.

But as for the logic; welp, if I'm honest, you seem to be witch-hunting.



Failure of the logic is that a witch hunt implies a person is innocent of the crimes or charges being leveled against them. As it is become understood since the Red Scare incidents. Which does not apply to Alex in this case. He is on tape, the on eve radio doing some real bullying this time while not drunk.

Originally people just wanted him to step down from the CSM. It went wacky cause he tried to backroom deal staying on it. Showing he didnt really understand the gravity of the situation and why people were upset.

Even more his recent actions and interviews show he is still way out of touch with why people are upset with him. And he has made them more upset with them with each charlie sheen moment he is having.

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GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4704 - 2012-03-31 20:55:23 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:


There would have been no major media circus if not for his ~deal with it~ then trying to cling to his CSM seat like a desperate dictator, followed by his twitter rantings and silly state of the goonian rant where he tries to balm everyone else and form hate, and eve Radio softball bullcrap he pulled and is trying to form hate against writers of blogs.

A real man would have said, I went to far i apologize, shut up about it all together. Accepted all punishment. Told his guys to let it go dont make it worse. Asked for some retractions on the fact IN PRIVATE and moved on with it.

Him and his followers are the ones that are making it a thing day in and out.


Its sick and he has only himself and his swarm to thank for it going so far out of control now.


I can only assume that you've never been in a situation like this before, but heyo, for the best part neither have I.

And, well, he doesn't own us; my feeling on all this have been made well aware in this thread.

It went out of control to the degree in part because of a media circus.

Heh, would like to carry this on with you personally in private.


No my close cousin only hung himself due to harassment. Never claimed i was not biased about this from the start FYI. But I try to make sure the logic of my points stands up under scrutiny because of my bias.


I'm genuinely sorry for your loss then. I really hope you, and your family will be ok. I know damn well how much this can hurt those you love.

But as for the logic; welp, if I'm honest, you seem to be witch-hunting.



Failure of the logic is that a witch hunt implies a person is innocent of the crimes or charges being leveled against them. As it is become understood since the Red Scare incidents. Which does not apply to Alex in this case. He is on tape, the on eve radio doing some real bullying this time while not drunk.

Originally people just wanted him to step down from the CSM. It went wacky cause he tried to backroom deal staying on it. Showing he didnt really understand the gravity of the situation and why people were upset.

Even more his recent actions and interviews show he is still way out of touch with why people are upset with him. And he has made them more upset with them with each charlie sheen moment he is having.


He's never said he was innocent; he messed up. And he did say that he was intending to resign as soon as he apologised? The witch-hunt angle is the whole internet-lawyer and more, And, well, if you're at all media savvy, you know that things can bandwagon!
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4705 - 2012-03-31 21:16:10 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:

Failure of the logic is that a witch hunt implies a person is innocent of the crimes or charges being leveled against them. As it is become understood since the Red Scare incidents. Which does not apply to Alex in this case. He is on tape, the on eve radio doing some real bullying this time while not drunk.

Originally people just wanted him to step down from the CSM. It went wacky cause he tried to backroom deal staying on it. Showing he didnt really understand the gravity of the situation and why people were upset.

Even more his recent actions and interviews show he is still way out of touch with why people are upset with him. And he has made them more upset with them with each charlie sheen moment he is having.

in other words this is a witch hunt
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4706 - 2012-03-31 21:16:58 UTC
This is not a flame or troll. This is just common sense

Mittani people need to just back off, stop posting and let the flames of this whole situation die down

If you're trying to prove Mittani is innocent and didn't do anything wrong, then you need to read the original post again. For every reply posted in support of Mittani, another 3 or 4 replies are posted condemning him. That's a battle you cannot win here in these forums and all you're doing is fanning the flames

Just consider it a tactical retreat from a lost battle.



'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4707 - 2012-03-31 21:19:02 UTC
CCP it is time for you to lock this up. This has been been beaten to death and there isn't even a corpse anymore and you are hitting the ground.
Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4708 - 2012-03-31 21:19:38 UTC
Berke Negri wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:

Failure of the logic is that a witch hunt implies a person is innocent of the crimes or charges being leveled against them. As it is become understood since the Red Scare incidents. Which does not apply to Alex in this case. He is on tape, the on eve radio doing some real bullying this time while not drunk.

Originally people just wanted him to step down from the CSM. It went wacky cause he tried to backroom deal staying on it. Showing he didnt really understand the gravity of the situation and why people were upset.

Even more his recent actions and interviews show he is still way out of touch with why people are upset with him. And he has made them more upset with them with each charlie sheen moment he is having.

in other words this is a witch hunt

are you saying that Mittardi is actually a female.
I always thought the same thing.
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4709 - 2012-03-31 21:21:01 UTC
Kalathia Eginald wrote:
CCP it is time for you to lock this up. This has been been beaten to death and there isn't even a corpse anymore and you are hitting the ground.


*smack* *smack* I just *smack* love *smack smack* beating this *smack* dead *smack* horse!
Memrox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4710 - 2012-03-31 21:24:49 UTC
Stop replying to this thread, let it die out.
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4711 - 2012-03-31 21:25:53 UTC
we will never stop posting
Jet Aeon
Two Smoking Barrels
#4712 - 2012-03-31 21:29:36 UTC
Memrox wrote:
Stop replying to this thread, let it die out.
Why let it die? This is one of the best debate topics this community has been involved in. Blink
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4713 - 2012-03-31 21:32:13 UTC
like wow
Richard Aiel
The Merchants of War
#4714 - 2012-03-31 21:32:21 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:


Yeah he says he wants to start a PR blitz to prove he is not a cyber bully, by cyber bullying people?

Im not sure if this is genius or madness now.


Its funny though, whats called cyberbullying everywhere else is called EVE to us

this thread is far more interesting if you hide post anyone with a Goon tag lol



Problem is Mittani is doing out of game stuff to get people to harass someone. AGAIN.


I was posting in support of you and pointing out the irony that ONLY in the culture of EVE would this be acceptable to anyone

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/buddahcjcc/SOA-3-2.jpg
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4715 - 2012-03-31 21:33:04 UTC
Richard Aiel wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:


Yeah he says he wants to start a PR blitz to prove he is not a cyber bully, by cyber bullying people?

Im not sure if this is genius or madness now.


Its funny though, whats called cyberbullying everywhere else is called EVE to us

this thread is far more interesting if you hide post anyone with a Goon tag lol



Problem is Mittani is doing out of game stuff to get people to harass someone. AGAIN.


I was posting in support of you and pointing out the irony that ONLY in the culture of EVE would this be acceptable to anyone



I mis read it then. My bad.

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MoyO zOlotse
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4716 - 2012-03-31 21:57:22 UTC
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Kalathia Eginald wrote:
CCP it is time for you to lock this up. This has been been beaten to death and there isn't even a corpse anymore and you are hitting the ground.


*smack* *smack* I just *smack* love *smack smack* beating this *smack* dead *smack* horse!


It's funny watching all the babies flail about whining in their diapers. Only to move the conversation to the top of the page!

Irony thy name is goon. Look, you bunch of professional window lickers, you got out EVEd plain and simple. You lost. Mittani lost and is banned LOL. Losers always lose and winners always win.

Leave Brittani Alone!!!

Don't CSM what you can't afford to loser.

Agustice Arterius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4717 - 2012-03-31 23:09:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Agustice Arterius
Bacchanalian wrote:


EDIT: Photographic proof that we look alike: http://onebit.us/x/i/17314fb6.jpg


Middle school called.

They want their spiked hair back.
Ai Shun
#4718 - 2012-03-31 23:14:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ai Shun
MoyO zOlotse wrote:
Irony thy name is goon. Look, you bunch of professional window lickers, you got out EVEd plain and simple. You lost. Mittani lost and is banned LOL. Losers always lose and winners always win.


Guess it is personal then and has been from the beginning. So sad what a vindictive bunch of tools some members of the EVE community has become.
Richard Aiel
The Merchants of War
#4719 - 2012-03-31 23:55:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Aiel
MoyO zOlotse wrote:
You lost. Mittani lost and is banned LOL.



eh, no its only 30 days...

unless its been changed for the better...

Ai Shun wrote:
MoyO zOlotse wrote:
Irony thy name is goon. Look, you bunch of professional window lickers, you got out EVEd plain and simple. You lost. Mittani lost and is banned LOL. Losers always lose and winners always win.


Guess it is personal then and has been from the beginning. So sad what a vindictive bunch of tools some members of the EVE community has become.


funny, before this it was pretty much contained to one group and one guy.....

Guess who that was

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/buddahcjcc/SOA-3-2.jpg
Talia Nachtigall
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4720 - 2012-04-01 00:49:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Talia Nachtigall
@Mittani:

I voted for you this year and I can honestly say I regret doing so. I never followed the CSM nor their activities until the whole protest over NEX and the massive Jita Protests. I saw something in the game I didn't like and looked to the CSM to protect the game we all love. They succeeded and I decided to start paying close attention to the CSM activities. I was impressed by the whole CSM and even you Mittani and that is why I voted for you. I didn't agree with you on everything but I knew you loved the game and wanted what was best for the game. And for me... that was enough.

However what you have done is shameful. It hurts the Eve Online community, hurts the CSM credibility, and embarrassed all of us as a collective whole. Publicly posting the name of a capsuleer pilot who obviously suffered from depression and stated he had suicidal thoughts... encouraging the community of Eve Online to eve-mail said capsuleer and encourage him to follow through... shows not only a total lack of respect for other people but also a total lack of class and character.

You have resigned from the Chairman position. That is not enough. As one of the capsuleers who voted for you... I want your complete resignation from the CSM effective immediately. You have posted a public apology to the community and have also apologized to the capsuleer in private. This is a good thing and is a small step towards making it right. I call upon you to take further actions:


  • Donate 3+ Billion ISK to the capsuleer in question. Post proof of this donation.
  • Donate 5+ Billion ISK to the Ivy League alliance. They train new capsuleers how to play in Eve Online. It's fitting that you support one of the most important entities in New Eden considering the circumstances. Post proof of this donation.


You're currently subject to a 30 day ban. Personally that is not enough. Cyber-bullying is a real problem now-a-days and what you did was pure cyber-bullying. There is a difference between an in-game persona and real life. You took a game and made it into real life. I am deeply ashamed of you, Mittani. You've lost my respect over this and the CSM has lost some of my respect as well. I hope that the CSM can move beyond this and that a situation like this never happens again.

PS: To the capsuleer in question... if you're suffering from depression and/or suicidal thoughts then please seek some help. Don't let this incident get to you. And report ANY jerk who sends you an encouragement eve-mail.

Respectfully,
Talia Nachtigall

Note: It's coming to my attention that you have already resigned from the CSM completely and if this is the case then good. Your forum name still shows CSM at this time and the last bit I read was that you had only resigned from the CSM Chairman position. Ignore this part if it does not apply.

Don't pray for my soul. ;)