EVE General Discussion

@ the OP

That took balls to post. For that you have some small measure respect from me.

I don't think the full legal implications of what mittens did have fully sunk in yet..

There are currently individuals pending criminal charges in the United States over posting video of an individual kissing another man, that individual later committing suicide.

If The Wiz actually committed suicide because his mackinaws were pursued mercilessly by individuals intent on making him kill himself, jokingly or not, would mittens be facing criminal charges? The fact that he was joking does not matter, the fact that he was drunk is irrelevant. When someone is accused of ****, saying "I was drunk" is not a valid defense. The individuals charged with the suicide mentioned above made public apologies and said "We didn't intend for him to kill himself.

Now the real question is; is someone who would advocate, even jokingly (jokingly is a context to be taken by the individual watching the presentation, not the presenter), that people pursue a player to make himself commit suicide worthy of any place of leadership? Questions to ponder



Mittani, you are a disgusting individual. The fact that you would get a pleasure out of griefing someone to the point that they commit suicide, or the idea of someone committing suicide from griefing, is abhorrent. Completely disregarding that fact that you were drunk during the presentation, you put those slides together, including an individual speaking about deep depression and suicide, and presented them in a mocking fashion. Seriously think about what you would have done if that guy had committed suicide. In truth you probably never would have found out, since his subscription would have just ended, and the player would have left the game forever. The goons would have chalked it up as another victory "Ha, we ****** with him so bad he QUIT the game!!!" not knowing he actually quit his life

The individuals saying that there is nothing wrong with your posts need to take a serious step back and consider what their morals and values are. To quote many goons defending your comments, "This is a game", exactly, we're here to have fun, sometimes in a frustrating and infuriating way. Death IRL should never be brought into that mix



Now, lets get back to blowing up internet space ships.

You are surprised that he got in trouble for saying "So if you want to make this guy go kill himself, here is his name. Go find him"

Hello?

People are being charged in a criminal case for causing a guy to commit suicide, not directly intending for him to commit suicide, but their actions resulting in his death. Mittens told people to go grief a guy to make him kill himself.

Now, never mind the legal implications of that, consider the PR problems with this. CCP now looks like a company that supports bullying to the point that people harm themselves, which is very... counteractive to making money, especially in a country such as the United States where actions similar to this are being met with sever punishments.

What mittens said is abhorrent as a human being, and more importantly to CCP since he is the public face of the gaming population, is attracting loads of bad PR.

Don't really understand why you was banned or resigned, your comments were not in game and were in a casual forum which could easily be equated to a bar...which we all know what happens there, we drink, we tell stories and we blow-off stream.

Please, please, do not belittle this amazing piece of anglo-saxon history that had repercussions across the globe by attempting to algin it between a drunk Internet Spaceship Pilot who gives an audience a previously unknown Internet Spaceship Pilots name and encourages others to help him commit suicide. There are parallels but this is not history in the making.

wow.. thats alot of posts

Im going to be honest about this.

When he said he was going to step down on his twitter I thought. "OH he gets it" but then he tried to cling to his power desperately showing that he didnt actually care or reflect on what he did. Had he just stepped down from the CSM instead of trying to weasel his way out of it this would not have become the mess it became.

Thats when it became clear he had to go.

ccp you are so terrible

You need to stop pushing your personal agenda and dislike for Alex as a person using an honest actual drama as ammo mate.

It's unsightly, obvious and not nearly subtle enough for my approval.