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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#4121 - 2012-03-28 21:40:50 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:


Inciting a riot, yeah I can see that one.

Making racist comments, I honestly didn't think that was illegal anywhere... although I realize freedom of speech is not a universal constant. If someone is stupid enough to make public their lack of intelligence by voicing such rubbish, so be it. They should be prepared for the social backlash... but it being against the law to express your point of view (no matter how uneducated) is a bit much.

Then again, I didin't see the tweets so perhaps there is something more directly damaging involved I am unaware of.

At least I hope so.




He twited

"LOL , **** Muamba. He’s dead!!! #haha"
he then responded to various people who tweeted back in disgust with some pretty vile stuff.

Again, he was also blind drunk at the time he was tweeting.

Also he was reported to the police by one of the people who had responded to his tweet.

He was charged and found guilty of a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence and will spend up to 56 days behind bars



Ah, so it was more of a "inciting a riot thing" prompting the charges than anything else. Okay, that makes a lot more sense.

I figured there was more to it than that.

Thanks.

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Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#4122 - 2012-03-28 21:41:31 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
DelightSucker wrote:
Lenrir Andven wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88008

There, i think we all should chill now.


Despite hes effort to chill ppl whit this, its not enough. he have caused to much damage already to eve and CCP from hes action and he should resign completely and not just as Chair.

This is a weak move and means nothing if he stays on the CSM and if CCP allow him they show there true color, and its not pretty.


Yes, because obviously CCP should listen to two dozen forum warriors more than the 10k people who voted for mittens.




Maybe the answer is to disband the CSM, at least that way we should not end up with this shame again.


That is just about the worst idea I've heard in a long time. I do hope you're not being serious.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#4123 - 2012-03-28 21:41:50 UTC
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:


Inciting a riot, yeah I can see that one.

Making racist comments, I honestly didn't think that was illegal anywhere... although I realize freedom of speech is not a universal constant. If someone is stupid enough to make public their lack of intelligence by voicing such rubbish, so be it. They should be prepared for the social backlash... but it being against the law to express your point of view (no matter how uneducated) is a bit much.

Then again, I didin't see the tweets so perhaps there is something more directly damaging involved I am unaware of.

At least I hope so.




He twited

"LOL , **** Muamba. He’s dead!!! #haha"
he then responded to various people who tweeted back in disgust with some pretty vile stuff.

Again, he was also blind drunk at the time he was tweeting.

Also he was reported to the police by one of the people who had responded to his tweet.

He was charged and found guilty of a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence and will spend up to 56 days behind bars

And this was at a time where Muamba's heart was not beating. (might have been shortly after they got it started again, but while he was still being kept alive by a machine. Either way, despicable, far, far worse than what Mittens is being accused of.


I completely agree.

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scooter Kondur
Doomheim
#4124 - 2012-03-28 21:42:10 UTC
Too little too late. Call of your dogs so my posts don't get insta locked.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#4125 - 2012-03-28 21:42:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Xander Riggs wrote:
Nylith Empyreal wrote:
JTK Fotheringham wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:


How much of a stretch is it to realize that either you or I could lose our temper some day and say something hurtful on a forum/tweet/facebook page.

Cyber Bullying, an organized and relentless attempt to harrass someone online is one thing. A single tweet is something else entirely.

Must have been a dozy.


It was a series of Tweets, all racially motivated, about a footballer who collapsed of heart failure during a premier league football match. Really sad.

What Alex did at Fanfest isn't in the same league - you see what I did there? Cool

To be honest, it wasn't a sustained bullying attack. The problem isn't just what he said (effectively the same or worse has been said in these two threadnaughts of ours!), it's where he said it, and who he is saying it. It's a PR problem, not an EULA problem. That's why the outcome will not be a ban from the game, but likely a removal (either by resignation, a CSM vote if that's even within their powers or some CCP action to bar him).


He's already said he is resigning in jita's speaker corner. Check it.


I am highly disappointed. I WANT an uncensored roustabout on the CSM. His job is to tell it like it is, and I have no trouble thinking Mittens would speak his mind when given the chance. I dont want the CSM to be politicians.


Unless something else happens, he'll still be there. Just not as chairman.

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Lilyanne Johnson
Doomheim
#4126 - 2012-03-28 21:42:42 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Lilyanne Johnson wrote:
to all you people who laugh and love what your fearless leader said while he was drunk off his ass and say it's okay because he was drunk when he said
then you're all saying it's okay when one of you is drunk off their butts in real life and gets in a car and plow into innocent civilians and kill them because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.



Ok the level of stupid just hit republican levels.




btw, I know about structure, genius, blame it on auto save draft. P
and you must be a democrat, baltec, because you sound like a jackass.
I'm an independent and I didn't vote for your man either, you dimwit.
laugh it up goonies.
i'm glad you confirm it's okay to be a scumbag in eve. you'll get yours in real life. then we'll see who laughs last. Evil

12/12/12 is coming. FTW
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#4127 - 2012-03-28 21:44:09 UTC
scooter Kondur wrote:
Too little too late. Call of your dogs so my posts don't get insta locked.



As you can clearly see, The Mittani now owns you.



MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?

Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#4128 - 2012-03-28 21:44:22 UTC
Lilyanne Johnson wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Lilyanne Johnson wrote:
to all you people who laugh and love what your fearless leader said while he was drunk off his ass and say it's okay because he was drunk when he said
then you're all saying it's okay when one of you is drunk off their butts in real life and gets in a car and plow into innocent civilians and kill them because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.



Ok the level of stupid just hit republican levels.




btw, I know about structure, genius, blame it on auto save draft. P
and you must be a democrat, baltec, because you sound like a jackass.
I'm an independent and I didn't vote for your man either, you dimwit.
laugh it up goonies.
i'm glad you confirm it's okay to be a scumbag in eve. you'll get yours in real life. then we'll see who laughs last. Evil

12/12/12 is coming. FTW


Hurpa derpa, doo werpa dee herpa doo.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."

Stabs McShiv
This is Serious Mum
The Initiative.
#4129 - 2012-03-28 21:44:53 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:


Inciting a riot, yeah I can see that one.

Making racist comments, I honestly didn't think that was illegal anywhere... although I realize freedom of speech is not a universal constant. If someone is stupid enough to make public their lack of intelligence by voicing such rubbish, so be it. They should be prepared for the social backlash... but it being against the law to express your point of view (no matter how uneducated) is a bit much.

Then again, I didin't see the tweets so perhaps there is something more directly damaging involved I am unaware of.

At least I hope so.




He twited

"LOL , **** Muamba. He’s dead!!! #haha"
he then responded to various people who tweeted back in disgust with some pretty vile stuff.

Again, he was also blind drunk at the time he was tweeting.

Also he was reported to the police by one of the people who had responded to his tweet.

He was charged and found guilty of a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence and will spend up to 56 days behind bars




U.K has turned into a fascist state that sh*t is some 1985 sh*t way to go poms dropped the ball on that one.
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#4130 - 2012-03-28 21:46:33 UTC
Stabs McShiv wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:


Inciting a riot, yeah I can see that one.

Making racist comments, I honestly didn't think that was illegal anywhere... although I realize freedom of speech is not a universal constant. If someone is stupid enough to make public their lack of intelligence by voicing such rubbish, so be it. They should be prepared for the social backlash... but it being against the law to express your point of view (no matter how uneducated) is a bit much.

Then again, I didin't see the tweets so perhaps there is something more directly damaging involved I am unaware of.

At least I hope so.




He twited

"LOL , **** Muamba. He’s dead!!! #haha"
he then responded to various people who tweeted back in disgust with some pretty vile stuff.

Again, he was also blind drunk at the time he was tweeting.

Also he was reported to the police by one of the people who had responded to his tweet.

He was charged and found guilty of a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence and will spend up to 56 days behind bars




U.K has turned into a fascist state that sh*t is some 1985 sh*t way to go poms dropped the ball on that one.


Agreed. While disgusting, that oversteps the bounds of governmental authority.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."

Nylith Empyreal
Blood Marauders
#4131 - 2012-03-28 21:48:12 UTC
Xander Riggs wrote:
Lilyanne Johnson wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Lilyanne Johnson wrote:
to all you people who laugh and love what your fearless leader said while he was drunk off his ass and say it's okay because he was drunk when he said
then you're all saying it's okay when one of you is drunk off their butts in real life and gets in a car and plow into innocent civilians and kill them because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.



Ok the level of stupid just hit republican levels.




btw, I know about structure, genius, blame it on auto save draft. P
and you must be a democrat, baltec, because you sound like a jackass.
I'm an independent and I didn't vote for your man either, you dimwit.
laugh it up goonies.
i'm glad you confirm it's okay to be a scumbag in eve. you'll get yours in real life. then we'll see who laughs last. Evil

12/12/12 is coming. FTW


Hurpa derpa, doo werpa dee herpa doo.


Don't communicate with it, just ignore it.

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#4132 - 2012-03-28 21:51:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Prince Kobol wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:


Inciting a riot, yeah I can see that one.

Making racist comments, I honestly didn't think that was illegal anywhere... although I realize freedom of speech is not a universal constant. If someone is stupid enough to make public their lack of intelligence by voicing such rubbish, so be it. They should be prepared for the social backlash... but it being against the law to express your point of view (no matter how uneducated) is a bit much.

Then again, I didin't see the tweets so perhaps there is something more directly damaging involved I am unaware of.

At least I hope so.




He twited

"LOL , **** Muamba. He’s dead!!! #haha"
he then responded to various people who tweeted back in disgust with some pretty vile stuff.

Again, he was also blind drunk at the time he was tweeting.

Also he was reported to the police by one of the people who had responded to his tweet.

He was charged and found guilty of a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence and will spend up to 56 days behind bars






That's a pretty perfect tweet for someone who's 'blind drunk'. Better writing skills than most of the posters in this thread.

I call BS.

Mr Epeen Cool
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#4133 - 2012-03-28 21:52:14 UTC
Xander Riggs wrote:
Sasha Azala wrote:
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
DelightSucker wrote:
Lenrir Andven wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88008

There, i think we all should chill now.


Despite hes effort to chill ppl whit this, its not enough. he have caused to much damage already to eve and CCP from hes action and he should resign completely and not just as Chair.

This is a weak move and means nothing if he stays on the CSM and if CCP allow him they show there true color, and its not pretty.


Yes, because obviously CCP should listen to two dozen forum warriors more than the 10k people who voted for mittens.




Maybe the answer is to disband the CSM, at least that way we should not end up with this shame again.


That is just about the worst idea I've heard in a long time. I do hope you're not being serious.



You could say that I'm starting to lean towards it.

On the one-hand the CSM represents the player base but in reality they don't truly represent the player base as you can see by those not voting. Plus the election method is crap it should be 1 person 1 vote otherwise it's as about money.

On the other hand the CSM could be in a good position to get things done if the right people are elected and that's become a big IF.
Prince Kobol
#4134 - 2012-03-28 21:52:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Xander Riggs wrote:
Stabs McShiv wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
[quote=Ranger 1]

...........




U.K has turned into a fascist state that sh*t is some 1985 sh*t way to go poms dropped the ball on that one.


Agreed. While disgusting, that oversteps the bounds of governmental authority.


You 2 guys have missed the point entirely.

In fact I would go so far to say its because idiots like yourself, the kind moronic ass-holes that we need these laws.

The laws basically says there is no difference between if you walk up to somebody on the street and scream vile racist crap at them and if you do it on the internet.

Its to stop morons like yourself hiding behind a keyboard because the level of your cowardice does not allow you tell somebody to their face what you think.
Vanguard One
4th Drake Squadron
#4135 - 2012-03-28 21:53:24 UTC
Aineko Macx wrote:
I have exactly 0 reasons to believe shittens means the apology. It's just a calculated maneuver to reduce the chance of reprisals.



Yep, It's called Damage Control.
Ai Shun
#4136 - 2012-03-28 21:53:30 UTC
Nylith Empyreal wrote:
Xander Riggs wrote:
Hurpa derpa, doo werpa dee herpa doo.


Don't communicate with it, just ignore it.


I didn't know you spoke Tellytubby! What did Xander say?
scooter Kondur
Doomheim
#4137 - 2012-03-28 21:54:08 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
Too little too late. Call of your dogs so my posts don't get insta locked.



As you can clearly see, The Mittani now owns you.



MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


So what now that he owns me he can sick his goons on me to go in for the kill...or would he rather i do that on my own? "Situation" is no Thulsa Doom
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4138 - 2012-03-28 21:54:11 UTC
Lilyanne Johnson wrote:




btw, I know about structure, genius, blame it on auto save draft. P
and you must be a democrat, baltec, because you sound like a jackass.
I'm an independent and I didn't vote for your man either, you dimwit.
laugh it up goonies.
i'm glad you confirm it's okay to be a scumbag in eve. you'll get yours in real life. then we'll see who laughs last. Evil

12/12/12 is coming. FTW


Not American.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4139 - 2012-03-28 21:54:33 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
The laws basically says there is no difference between if you walk up to somebody on the street and scream vile racist crap at them and if you do it on the internet.

Last time I checked neither of these were illegal in my country.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Nylith Empyreal
Blood Marauders
#4140 - 2012-03-28 21:55:51 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
Nylith Empyreal wrote:
Xander Riggs wrote:
Hurpa derpa, doo werpa dee herpa doo.


Don't communicate with it, just ignore it.


I didn't know you spoke Tellytubby! What did Xander say?


I'm afraid it would be mostly censored on these particular forums and it would be impolite to restate them here.

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?