EVE General Discussion

Temulkar Blaine,

Your posting clearly shows that not even you're not a lawyer, but also you don't have even a vague understanding of law.

also, lolUK.

In my opinion the apology was enough, the isk from his personal wallet was more than needed but if he felt he had to do it then I respect that. If you're unwilling to accept the apology as sincere (which I don't think is the case from your earlier posts but other people will read this) then theres a good chance you're a pitchfork carrying lynchmob and nothing anyone says will convince you until The Mittani hangs.

I think if people with conflicting political agendas weren't trying their hardest to spread misinformation about this unfortunate event it would all have blown over days ago. Any sweeping game changes CCP has to make will be on their heads, not The Mittani's but again, nothing I say will convince them of that. I'd hope most of them are just too short sighted to see the likely consequences of their actions. Not to mention the extra harassment of the player in question that the publicity over this issue has caused (but thats good harassment right).

I also think (and theres plenty of evidence to support this right here in this thread) that a lot of the people calling for his resignation haven't even taken the time to think about the issues. Theres a massive bandwagon right now and a lot of people just like bandwagons.

Finally I think kneejerk resignations are bad for society as a whole despite how trendy they are right now. The Mittani is good at being the chair of the CSM and a good CSM chair makes for a healthier Eve. Sure he should be punished, I'd be pretty chill with a temp ban and never being allowed to speak on the Alliance panel again but his resignation won't solve any actual problems.

Look at all that effortposting >:(

I would prefer to see him face criminal prosecution for what he did. A ban is far too lenient.

I suspect Goons would glady let people suffer in RL if it benefitted them. Their postings on this thread seem to support this claim. Supporting cyber-bullying is not only incomprehensible, but it tells you a great deal about the general mores of the goons. Do what you can and literally see how far you can push someone over the edge at a fanfest.

The supportive comments are goons...which is hardly a surprise.

I guess life is considered cheap where you live.

Sam

I want to share with you a few of the tentative conclusions I've reached regarding The Mittani's practices. And I stress the word "tentative," because the subject of what motivates The Mittani is tricky and complex. I begin with critical semantic clarifications. First, The Mittani's hatchet men are too lazy to deal with the relevant facts. They just want to sit back, fasten their mouths on the public teats, and casually forget that The Mittani keeps missing my point. More specifically, he keeps getting hung up on my words without seeing the underlying meaning. For example, when I say that The Mittani's flimflams are built on a backlash fueled by anger—in the form of resentment, spite, vengeance, envy, loss, and bitterness over declining status—on the part of the worst kinds of unstable wicked-types there are, The Mittani seems incapable of realizing that what I'm really getting at is that people used to think I was exaggerating whenever I said that his snow jobs represent an illegitimate, unilateral attempt to get people to vote against their own self-interests. After seeing The Mittani preach fear and ignorance these same people now realize that I wasn't exaggerating at all. In fact, they even realize that mass anxiety is the equivalent of steroids for The Mittani. If we feel helpless, The Mittani is energized and ramps up his efforts to usher in the rule of the Antichrist and the apocalyptic end times.

I'll go over that again: It wasn't so long ago that people like you and me were free to transcend local prejudices. Recently, that's become a lot harder to do. What happened that changed things so much? To put it briefly, The Mittani happened. By setting the wolf to mind the sheep, The Mittani has managed to get everyone to march in lockstep with his abusive epigones. If he sincerely believes that we can change the truth if we don't like it the way it is then he must be smoking something illegal. Should someone think that I am saying too much, I am not saying too much but much too little. For The Mittani has never disproved anything I've ever written. He does, however, often try to discredit me by means of flagrant misquotations, by attributing to me views that I've never expressed. In the end, if you want truth, you have to struggle for it. This letter represents my struggle, my attempt at announcing that we may need to picket, demonstrate, march, or strike to stop The Mittani before he can construct the spectre of a terrible armed threat. It is also my soapbox for informing the community at large that he should work with us, not step in at the eleventh hour and hog all the glory.

A desire to wear a cloak of status and prestige is the only explanation for The Mittani's otherwise inexplicable behavior. Sounds pretty flagitious, doesn't it? But is it any more so than The Mittani's vulgar memoirs? You may be wondering why insensitive converts to prætorianism (especially the pertinacious type) latch onto The Mittani's suggestions. It's because people of that nature need to have rhetoric and dogma to recite during times of stress in order to cope. That's also why The Mittani recently got caught red-handed trying to push the State towards greater influence, self-preservation, and totalitarianism and away from civic engagement, constituent choice, and independent thought. Well, surprise, surprise, surprise, as Gomer Pyle would say. In short, The Mittani's dodgy, self-absorbed endeavors have done much to seize control of the power structure. I propose, therefore, that we respond by doing what we can to transform our culture of war and violence into a culture of peace and nonviolence.

Nobody is arguing that UK law should have validity over a US citizen (which would a sentiment we'd appreciate your politicians would adopt in the case of our file-sharing students getting extradited by the way)

But it would be ridiculously short-sighted for CCP as a company to ignore the potential bad-press and impact that having the player representative chair of their game to remain unpunished for stomping his drunken way into a very big ticket media focus at the moment.

Karim your posting clearly shows that you havent understood the serious nature of this issue and you dont even have the vaguest empathy for someone being harrassed. I pity you.

People are taking this too far. If it wasn't a goon who said this nobody would have a problem.

You're trying to present your own opinions as those of the majority. Questioning your grounds to do that is entirely relevant.[/quote

So far there seems a majority in favour of Alexander Gianturco being forced to resign as expressed in the very many public threads on the issue. But once again, if you want to talk about the misdeeds of your leader I'm very happy to do so. Otherwise, run along.