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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3121 - 2012-03-28 09:45:49 UTC
I can haz Roadhouse?

wait... wtf just happened?

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#3122 - 2012-03-28 09:46:40 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Maverick Gauss wrote:
I am fairly new to Eve, so new that this years fanfest was the first I watched. And the appearance on the Alliance panel was the first I saw of The Mittani. But I take your word that he is a great enrichment to this community.

About his appology for his missdoings I'm sceptic. True he was drunk during the panel. But I don't think he was drunk when his corpmember told him the story about this miner. He probably wasn't drunk when he made the power point presentation and I don't believe he was drunk when he intentionally made the decission to mock this player in front of tousands of people.

I see that some may say that his good deeds outweight this one mistake, but this is the price for his fame. Him stepping down as CSM Chairman would be the absolute least to do. Giving all his ISK to the victim, fair enough. Harassing The Mittani even after he takes this actions, too much and also a bit hippocratic.

Yours sincerly


Mav, I applaud you speaking your mind as a new player, but there is something you need to understand.

Nobody cares about any of the things you mentioned... not the slide, not laughing publicly at the guy, none of that.

Yes, we do.

Most of the EVE gaming community actually cares deeply. The OTHER 290k accounts care. My guess is there is actually more players of EVE who care than there are those who do not.

Yes, this is, unfortunately, currently "business as usual" in EVE. But it should not be. Eight years ago it wasn't. Even five years ago it was usual for people to feel at least a bit silly if not ashamed if they clearly overstepped the lines and made other players seriously uncomfortable. It is just the Goonfleet and friends purposeful, deliberate destruction of the community and flaming / spamming / trolling everyone who cares into disgusted silence on the forums, that has changed our community standards from "it's just a game, I'm sorry it upsets you, I have nothing against you personally" to "lololololol it is just a game pubbie tears sweet bloobloobloo lol noob I love you crying."

The difference should be obvious to anyone who has been here long enough.

And I for one think it's way beyond time we went back to the actual sportsmanship, instead of pretending that sportsmanship is about ridiculing those who are already upset about losing.

Copy sent to Maverick via evemail, as I suspect he is not reading the thread anymore.
Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#3123 - 2012-03-28 09:47:36 UTC
What is with this "apology accepted", you random nobodys?

Who offended you and who apologized to you ?

Pain is weakness leaving the body http://www.youtube.com/user/AlRashidKarim/videos
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3124 - 2012-03-28 10:05:17 UTC
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Maverick Gauss wrote:
I am fairly new to Eve, so new that this years fanfest was the first I watched. And the appearance on the Alliance panel was the first I saw of The Mittani. But I take your word that he is a great enrichment to this community.

About his appology for his missdoings I'm sceptic. True he was drunk during the panel. But I don't think he was drunk when his corpmember told him the story about this miner. He probably wasn't drunk when he made the power point presentation and I don't believe he was drunk when he intentionally made the decission to mock this player in front of tousands of people.

I see that some may say that his good deeds outweight this one mistake, but this is the price for his fame. Him stepping down as CSM Chairman would be the absolute least to do. Giving all his ISK to the victim, fair enough. Harassing The Mittani even after he takes this actions, too much and also a bit hippocratic.

Yours sincerly


Mav, I applaud you speaking your mind as a new player, but there is something you need to understand.

Nobody cares about any of the things you mentioned... not the slide, not laughing publicly at the guy, none of that.

Yes, we do.

Most of the EVE gaming community actually cares deeply. The OTHER 290k accounts care. My guess is there is actually more players of EVE who care than there are those who do not.

Yes, this is, unfortunately, currently "business as usual" in EVE. But it should not be. Eight years ago it wasn't. Even five years ago it was usual for people to feel at least a bit silly if not ashamed if they clearly overstepped the lines and made other players seriously uncomfortable. It is just the Goonfleet and friends purposeful, deliberate destruction of the community and flaming / spamming / trolling everyone who cares into disgusted silence on the forums, that has changed our community standards from "it's just a game, I'm sorry it upsets you, I have nothing against you personally" to "lololololol it is just a game pubbie tears sweet bloobloobloo lol noob I love you crying."

The difference should be obvious to anyone who has been here long enough.

And I for one think it's way beyond time we went back to the actual sportsmanship, instead of pretending that sportsmanship is about ridiculing those who are already upset about losing.

Copy sent to Maverick via evemail, as I suspect he is not reading the thread anymore.


I think this incident might be a watershed for CCP to really stare rethinking HTFU mentality.

I cant imagine this mentality will translate well into WOD where they are going to be courting more female players.

Or dust 514 where they will pick up more casual and younger players.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3125 - 2012-03-28 10:14:24 UTC
Maybe you'd think differently if you STOPPED DERAILING THIS THREAD and watched Roadhouse, a movie 100% guaranteed to make you HTFU.
JamesCLK
#3126 - 2012-03-28 10:16:18 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Maverick Gauss wrote:
I am fairly new to Eve, so new that this years fanfest was the first I watched. And the appearance on the Alliance panel was the first I saw of The Mittani. But I take your word that he is a great enrichment to this community.

About his appology for his missdoings I'm sceptic. True he was drunk during the panel. But I don't think he was drunk when his corpmember told him the story about this miner. He probably wasn't drunk when he made the power point presentation and I don't believe he was drunk when he intentionally made the decission to mock this player in front of tousands of people.

I see that some may say that his good deeds outweight this one mistake, but this is the price for his fame. Him stepping down as CSM Chairman would be the absolute least to do. Giving all his ISK to the victim, fair enough. Harassing The Mittani even after he takes this actions, too much and also a bit hippocratic.

Yours sincerly


Mav, I applaud you speaking your mind as a new player, but there is something you need to understand.

Nobody cares about any of the things you mentioned... not the slide, not laughing publicly at the guy, none of that.

Yes, we do.

Most of the EVE gaming community actually cares deeply. The OTHER 290k accounts care. My guess is there is actually more players of EVE who care than there are those who do not.

Yes, this is, unfortunately, currently "business as usual" in EVE. But it should not be. Eight years ago it wasn't. Even five years ago it was usual for people to feel at least a bit silly if not ashamed if they clearly overstepped the lines and made other players seriously uncomfortable. It is just the Goonfleet and friends purposeful, deliberate destruction of the community and flaming / spamming / trolling everyone who cares into disgusted silence on the forums, that has changed our community standards from "it's just a game, I'm sorry it upsets you, I have nothing against you personally" to "lololololol it is just a game pubbie tears sweet bloobloobloo lol noob I love you crying."

The difference should be obvious to anyone who has been here long enough.

And I for one think it's way beyond time we went back to the actual sportsmanship, instead of pretending that sportsmanship is about ridiculing those who are already upset about losing.

Copy sent to Maverick via evemail, as I suspect he is not reading the thread anymore.


I think this incident might be a watershed for CCP to really stare rethinking HTFU mentality.

I cant imagine this mentality will translate well into WOD where they are going to be courting more female players.

Or dust 514 where they will pick up more casual and younger players.


Reality check: WOD is going to be an M rated game with permadeath as a possible outcome of pvp. HTFU was written across the board. CCP does not cater to casuals in their mission statement.
You're trying too hard to read between nonexistant lines; you're also not posting about Roadhouse.
Get out.

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Doctor Eezee
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3127 - 2012-03-28 10:19:09 UTC
WoD will have sparkly Vampires that live in the sun. How dare you ruin that for me.

"My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3128 - 2012-03-28 10:21:46 UTC
Sidus Sarmiang wrote:

Yeah, it's a photoshop.

When you add images together in photoshop, even if they're from the same source, unless you're really, really, really good at it, under high contrast and brightness sharp lines will appear differentiating the images.



This is a normal EVE picture.
http://i.imgur.com/ivcii.jpg
Here it is under high contrast at a few different levels of brightness.
http://imgur.com/popA5
http://imgur.com/f0UUu

Notice that the lines are fluid outside of the window breaks.

Here's the publord's chatlog under high contrast and brightness.

http://i.imgur.com/sbp9M.jpg

Look at the sharp breaks within the window itself. Oopsie. Do a better job next time. Also make it so that you and the person you're talking to don't both sound like equally ******** illiterates.


Oh you Geeeewns!

First off,that snippet was taken with Hyperdesktop which uploads really low quality images. Plus I play with really low settings on my stupid computer. So comparing hires images to the low res is stupid.

Secondly,if you want to check for doctoring of images,youd normally check the threshold levels. Not contrast/brightness/saturation which you did there.

But go ahead and put this image http://i.imgur.com/CXEde.jpg through your failsafe method.

These are the two combined
http://i.imgur.com/7F2kz.jpg

After threshold.
http://i.imgur.com/dfWbk.jpg

Check the artifacts between the texts. If I did modify anything it would show up. I'm a freelance 3D artist by profession,so I know PS at some level.

Also,considering the quality of your corp posting on here,I don't think you're in any position to judge my literacy or lack of it.

Keep failing spectacularly,mate. Thats why we secretly love you!


Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#3129 - 2012-03-28 10:22:28 UTC
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Maverick Gauss wrote:
I am fairly new to Eve, so new that this years fanfest was the first I watched. And the appearance on the Alliance panel was the first I saw of The Mittani. But I take your word that he is a great enrichment to this community.

About his appology for his missdoings I'm sceptic. True he was drunk during the panel. But I don't think he was drunk when his corpmember told him the story about this miner. He probably wasn't drunk when he made the power point presentation and I don't believe he was drunk when he intentionally made the decission to mock this player in front of tousands of people.

I see that some may say that his good deeds outweight this one mistake, but this is the price for his fame. Him stepping down as CSM Chairman would be the absolute least to do. Giving all his ISK to the victim, fair enough. Harassing The Mittani even after he takes this actions, too much and also a bit hippocratic.

Yours sincerly


Mav, I applaud you speaking your mind as a new player, but there is something you need to understand.

Nobody cares about any of the things you mentioned... not the slide, not laughing publicly at the guy, none of that.

Yes, we do.

Most of the EVE gaming community actually cares deeply. The OTHER 290k accounts care. My guess is there is actually more players of EVE who care than there are those who do not.

Yes, this is, unfortunately, currently "business as usual" in EVE. But it should not be. Eight years ago it wasn't. Even five years ago it was usual for people to feel at least a bit silly if not ashamed if they clearly overstepped the lines and made other players seriously uncomfortable. It is just the Goonfleet and friends purposeful, deliberate destruction of the community and flaming / spamming / trolling everyone who cares into disgusted silence on the forums, that has changed our community standards from "it's just a game, I'm sorry it upsets you, I have nothing against you personally" to "lololololol it is just a game pubbie tears sweet bloobloobloo lol noob I love you crying."

The difference should be obvious to anyone who has been here long enough.

And I for one think it's way beyond time we went back to the actual sportsmanship, instead of pretending that sportsmanship is about ridiculing those who are already upset about losing.

Copy sent to Maverick via evemail, as I suspect he is not reading the thread anymore.



I agree with Elsebeth completely on this point and I think you are being deeply dishonest with the response you gave to that new player Ranger 1.

The situation you describe is the outlook of SA forums and an alien culture that has sought to impose itself on the community of eve online. But its a tiny fraction of the player base regardless of how much noise it makes during these threads on the forums. Most players are not Goons, don't think like goons, and don't act like goons. Despite the way the game has been portrayed by Alexander Gianturco's behaviour at Fanfest the game has not been culturally colonized to the exclusion of all else by this kind of brash sexist, hateful I guess you could say Aris Bakhtanians style outlook.

And more to the point I think that was the precise point CCP themselves were trying to make all the way through the Fanfest presentations. "We play the game hard and ruthlessly but face to face as people we're lovely!" I mean jesus christ, you could practically read that script on the teleprompters for their anchor team.

Its a good line. It harnesses the "core gaming" experience stuff their marketing VP was on about, it differentiates the game from other "soft core" theme park MMOs while still reaching out for subscribers who might have previously been put off by all the horrible behaviour and casual bullying that goes on amongst certain sections of the community.

We blow each others ships to hell every night, but there isn't a call to send people to harress a guy into suicide after you ruin his barge business. I mean how complicated is this stuff really?

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Khersei
Deimos Delivery Co
Pillars of Liberty
#3130 - 2012-03-28 10:25:43 UTC
So you are saying in a game whose primary target audience will be emo goth types it will be ok to hound people using bullying and metagaming.

if thats the case then WOD is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3131 - 2012-03-28 10:25:58 UTC
None of those pictures are of Patrick Swayze or screenshots from Roadhouse, you make me wish negrepping was possible.
Sunviking
Doomheim
#3132 - 2012-03-28 10:29:47 UTC
People should stop ultra-trolling this thread, desperately trying to de-rail it.
ExhumeToConsume
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3133 - 2012-03-28 10:31:07 UTC
Sunviking wrote:
People should stop ultra-trolling this thread, desperately trying to de-rail it.


I hope you mean the anti-Roadhouse crowd who are busy dishonoUring the mighty Patrick Swayze?? Ugh
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3134 - 2012-03-28 10:34:15 UTC
Sunviking wrote:
People should stop ultra-trolling this thread, desperately trying to de-rail it.


I agree, the anti-roadhouse crowd needs to get the **** out.
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
#3135 - 2012-03-28 10:36:31 UTC
Triskian wrote:
None of those pictures are of Patrick Swayze or screenshots from Roadhouse, you make me wish negrepping was possible.
Why are you still focusing on Roadhouse? It wasn't that good and he is a CHILD MOLESTOR! If you need to clutch to a Swayze movie, at least worship Point Break. That had Keeanu Reeves in it who is a much more talented actor and frankly saved the film from Swayze's deadpan droning and constant molesting.
Frying Doom
#3136 - 2012-03-28 10:39:58 UTC
Triskian wrote:
Sunviking wrote:
People should stop ultra-trolling this thread, desperately trying to de-rail it.


I agree, the anti-roadhouse crowd needs to get the **** out.

It is kind of refreshing to know the goons haven't changed at all. Keep shouting about a movie, is this because you don't want us to talk about The Mittani's actions anymore or because you have given up trying to fight a loosing battle?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Doctor Eezee
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3137 - 2012-03-28 10:42:02 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Triskian wrote:
Sunviking wrote:
People should stop ultra-trolling this thread, desperately trying to de-rail it.


I agree, the anti-roadhouse crowd needs to get the **** out.

It is kind of refreshing to know the goons haven't changed at all. Keep shouting about a movie, is this because you don't want us to talk about The Mittani's actions anymore or because you have given up trying to fight a loosing battle?



Good to see you back in your troll persona :)

Actually we do it because it's fun, which is why we do everything in this game. I already told you that in another thread though.

"My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov
Doctor Eezee
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3138 - 2012-03-28 10:43:02 UTC
Roadhouse quote of the day: “I used to **** guys like you in prison”

"My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov
esc shk
Okay Sax
#3139 - 2012-03-28 10:44:21 UTC
Posting
Sunviking
Doomheim
#3140 - 2012-03-28 10:44:44 UTC
ExhumeToConsume wrote:
Sunviking wrote:
People should stop ultra-trolling this thread, desperately trying to de-rail it.


I hope you mean the anti-Roadhouse crowd who are busy dishonoUring the mighty Patrick Swayze?? Ugh


No, I was clearly referring to you lot.