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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#2881 - 2012-03-28 05:11:10 UTC
I've suddenly realized, to my complete horror, that I type entirely too slowly for this thread.

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Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2882 - 2012-03-28 05:11:51 UTC
Is it not funny how Mittani took his eve character, the scamming, the trolling, the griefing tool, and made his fiction character come out in real life. Is it not funny how, the great mittani, rolf, is gonna be beheaded by not some war, but by his own doing. I just find it so funny, how the players in goonswarm have worked so hard, so feverishly, to grow and become a powerhouse, only to be self destructing by their own ceo.
That is hilarious.
goons are just a ball of s*** rolling down a hill, some time or sooner they gonna hit, and you know what happens when a ball of **** hits the wall.
lol.
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2883 - 2012-03-28 05:12:01 UTC
Derrick Munroe wrote:
Triskian wrote:
What about the guy from DNSBlack who actually assaulted Mittens during the panel by throwing stuff at him?


Got a source by any chance? It'd be interesting if that happened and everybody wasn't getting all ~internet offended~ over it...


Watch the presentation right before The Mittani's. The leader of Dirt Nap Squad gets up and throws 4 wadded balls of paper at Mittens implying they are magical missiles which if real would've caused him grievous bodily harm.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2884 - 2012-03-28 05:12:05 UTC
Ashen Molotov wrote:
It was my understanding he told everyone this guys real name and encouraged them to harrass him in and out of game. A persons name is personal information when it's involving a video game in which the only thing a person knows is your in game name.

Regardless let's agree that no personal information was given out, does that still remove all wrong doing? No it does not.

You supporters of this can kiss his ass all you want to but all it's doing is making you look like kool aid drinkers waiting for him to pass you the drink that will magicaly take you home to be with the Aliens in the sky.


So you did not watch the video in question and you're just going all "hurr goonies" over something you're absolutely clueless about

cool

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2885 - 2012-03-28 05:12:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Kallynda Nai
Ashen Molotov wrote:
Kallynda Nai wrote:
Ashen Molotov wrote:
Derrick Munroe wrote:
The EULA everybody seems to enjoy referencing wrote:
You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances.


See that up there? Up to CCP to decide. And it appears they've let the CSM argue it out. Give it a few days, it's not in any of your hands, sorry~


True enough but what happened here was way larger then just some in game harrment. Anyone should be able to understand that.

I actually like Goon and think it's insanely funny how they pretty much own EvE. To this point though it's been b/c of in game stuff. What this guy did though was completely and whole heartedly over the line. He EVEN ADMITS THIS HIMSELF !

For CCP to not remove him would just be unthinkable. What kind of message does that send?

Maybe I will go to Fanfest next year and harress the **** out of everyone I see, as well as share their personal information and try to talk others into doing this until the person finally just kills themself. There is absolutely no way this can be defended by anyone with half a brain. You cannot tell me what he did was 100% ok. Therefore if what he did was not 100% ok then there HAS to be some consequences, period.


Point to the timestamp in the video where this happened.


It was my understanding he told everyone this guys real name and encouraged them to harrass him in and out of game. A persons name is personal information when it's involving a video game in which the only thing a person knows is your in game name.

Regardless let's agree that no personal information was given out, does that still remove all wrong doing? No it does not.

You supporters of this can kiss his ass all you want to but all it's doing is making you look like kool aid drinkers waiting for him to pass you the drink that will magicaly take you home to be with the Aliens in the sky.


Confirming you haven't actually watched the video but you feel that you can speak as an informed participant. Neat.
Derrick Munroe
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2886 - 2012-03-28 05:12:20 UTC
Ashen Molotov wrote:
Kallynda Nai wrote:
Ashen Molotov wrote:
Derrick Munroe wrote:
The EULA everybody seems to enjoy referencing wrote:
You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances.


See that up there? Up to CCP to decide. And it appears they've let the CSM argue it out. Give it a few days, it's not in any of your hands, sorry~


True enough but what happened here was way larger then just some in game harrment. Anyone should be able to understand that.

I actually like Goon and think it's insanely funny how they pretty much own EvE. To this point though it's been b/c of in game stuff. What this guy did though was completely and whole heartedly over the line. He EVEN ADMITS THIS HIMSELF !

For CCP to not remove him would just be unthinkable. What kind of message does that send?

Maybe I will go to Fanfest next year and harress the **** out of everyone I see, as well as share their personal information and try to talk others into doing this until the person finally just kills themself. There is absolutely no way this can be defended by anyone with half a brain. You cannot tell me what he did was 100% ok. Therefore if what he did was not 100% ok then there HAS to be some consequences, period.


Point to the timestamp in the video where this happened.


It was my understanding he told everyone this guys real name and encouraged them to harrass him in and out of game. A persons name is personal information when it's involving a video game in which the only thing a person knows is your in game name.

Regardless let's agree that no personal information was given out, does that still remove all wrong doing? No it does not.

You supporters of this can kiss his ass all you want to but all it's doing is making you look like kool aid drinkers waiting for him to pass you the drink that will magicaly take you home to be with the Aliens in the sky.


You're missing key info then bro. He didn't give out the guy's real name, just the in-game name of one of the guy's 23 characters.

What's it like, not owning any tech moons?

Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2887 - 2012-03-28 05:12:57 UTC
Mistress Lilu wrote:
goons are just a ball of s*** rolling down a hill, some time or sooner they gonna hit, and you know what happens when a ball of **** hits the wall.


We move back to Syndicate?

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["

RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2888 - 2012-03-28 05:13:04 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
I've suddenly realized, to my complete horror, that I type entirely too slowly for this thread.



Pick up the pace! Or think less about what you post.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **

michaelthered
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2889 - 2012-03-28 05:13:09 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Ashen Molotov wrote:
Derrick Munroe wrote:
The EULA everybody seems to enjoy referencing wrote:
You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances.


See that up there? Up to CCP to decide. And it appears they've let the CSM argue it out. Give it a few days, it's not in any of your hands, sorry~


True enough but what happened here was way larger then just some in game harrment. Anyone should be able to understand that.

I actually like Goon and think it's insanely funny how they pretty much own EvE. To this point though it's been b/c of in game stuff. What this guy did though was completely and whole heartedly over the line. He EVEN ADMITS THIS HIMSELF !

For CCP to not remove him would just be unthinkable. What kind of message does that send?

Maybe I will go to Fanfest next year and harress the **** out of everyone I see, as well as share their personal information and try to talk others into doing this until the person finally just kills themself. There is absolutely no way this can be defended by anyone with half a brain. You cannot tell me what he did was 100% ok. Therefore if what he did was not 100% ok then there HAS to be some consequences, period.


Except he didn't harass anyone, nor did he divulge any personal information about the man, nor did he kill himself...

Keeping it real.



people did email wis doing exactly what mittens told them to do. That's an inconvenient fact isn't it?
Derrick Munroe
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2890 - 2012-03-28 05:14:05 UTC
michaelthered wrote:


people did email wis doing exactly what mittens told them to do. That's an inconvenient fact isn't it?


Cool. Evidence?

What's it like, not owning any tech moons?

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#2891 - 2012-03-28 05:14:08 UTC
Ashen Molotov wrote:
Kallynda Nai wrote:
Ashen Molotov wrote:
Derrick Munroe wrote:
The EULA everybody seems to enjoy referencing wrote:
You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances.


See that up there? Up to CCP to decide. And it appears they've let the CSM argue it out. Give it a few days, it's not in any of your hands, sorry~


True enough but what happened here was way larger then just some in game harrment. Anyone should be able to understand that.

I actually like Goon and think it's insanely funny how they pretty much own EvE. To this point though it's been b/c of in game stuff. What this guy did though was completely and whole heartedly over the line. He EVEN ADMITS THIS HIMSELF !

For CCP to not remove him would just be unthinkable. What kind of message does that send?

Maybe I will go to Fanfest next year and harress the **** out of everyone I see, as well as share their personal information and try to talk others into doing this until the person finally just kills themself. There is absolutely no way this can be defended by anyone with half a brain. You cannot tell me what he did was 100% ok. Therefore if what he did was not 100% ok then there HAS to be some consequences, period.


Point to the timestamp in the video where this happened.


It was my understanding he told everyone this guys real name and encouraged them to harrass him in and out of game. A persons name is personal information when it's involving a video game in which the only thing a person knows is your in game name.

Regardless let's agree that no personal information was given out, does that still remove all wrong doing? No it does not.

You supporters of this can kiss his ass all you want to but all it's doing is making you look like kool aid drinkers waiting for him to pass you the drink that will magicaly take you home to be with the Aliens in the sky.


Maybe you should check the video again then, cause he only gave out the guy's in-game name.

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RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2892 - 2012-03-28 05:14:18 UTC
Derrick Munroe wrote:


You're missing key info then bro. He didn't give out the guy's real name, just the in-game name of one of the guy's 23 characters.


Yet egged people on to harass him into killing himself for real......yeah you keep leaving that part out conveniently.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **

Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2893 - 2012-03-28 05:14:21 UTC
Mistress Lilu wrote:
goons are just a ball of s*** rolling down a hill, some time or sooner they gonna hit, and you know what happens when a ball of **** hits the wall.


Yeah. Delve.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2894 - 2012-03-28 05:14:23 UTC
I wonder what I'd do if I had 23 accounts that I play with and one of them was getting a lot of convos

hmm i think i'd tick the "block all communications" checkbox on that one account

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2895 - 2012-03-28 05:15:17 UTC
michaelthered wrote:
people did email wis doing exactly what mittens told them to do. That's an inconvenient fact isn't it?


so this happened right after the presentation and not two days later when these threads went up

right?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

D Derp
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2896 - 2012-03-28 05:15:29 UTC  |  Edited by: D Derp
RougeOperator wrote:


I dont know why you are asking me this, I was pointing out to someone else that you were still subject to USA laws when abroad. Someone else was talking about Swedish laws so I clarified you are also subject them them. And any laws of the country you are in the honors a US passport.

Anything else?



Someone said something to the effect of how in sweden what mittens said was illegal. I said America isn't sweden. You went off about passports thai hookers, and something about ameican law applies to citizens abroad. Then you got called stupid.

RougeOperator wrote:
D Derp wrote:
michaelthered wrote:





ambushed? lols Just say "go kill yourself" to someones face and be prepared for adult consequences. "IF" you're not willing to say something to someones face don't say it over the internet. And don't hide behind the "it's just a game" notion. One of my corpmates is from Sweden and he stated blatantly if he made a video and posted it on the internet urging people to contact his neighbor to urge him to commit suicide, it would be jail time. This was not "fun and games" like certain people here are trying to make it out to be.


Sweden isn't america, bro. Also, nice false equivalency bro~



You are still subject to all laws that would be illegal in the USA when traveling abroad. Just and FYI.
Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2897 - 2012-03-28 05:15:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Kallynda Nai
michaelthered wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Ashen Molotov wrote:
Derrick Munroe wrote:
The EULA everybody seems to enjoy referencing wrote:
You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances.


See that up there? Up to CCP to decide. And it appears they've let the CSM argue it out. Give it a few days, it's not in any of your hands, sorry~


True enough but what happened here was way larger then just some in game harrment. Anyone should be able to understand that.

I actually like Goon and think it's insanely funny how they pretty much own EvE. To this point though it's been b/c of in game stuff. What this guy did though was completely and whole heartedly over the line. He EVEN ADMITS THIS HIMSELF !

For CCP to not remove him would just be unthinkable. What kind of message does that send?

Maybe I will go to Fanfest next year and harress the **** out of everyone I see, as well as share their personal information and try to talk others into doing this until the person finally just kills themself. There is absolutely no way this can be defended by anyone with half a brain. You cannot tell me what he did was 100% ok. Therefore if what he did was not 100% ok then there HAS to be some consequences, period.


Except he didn't harass anyone, nor did he divulge any personal information about the man, nor did he kill himself...

Keeping it real.



people did email wis doing exactly what mittens told them to do. That's an inconvenient fact isn't it?


Oops, The Wis is on record as saying that no one had even contacted him about it until today.

Edit: possibly yesterday. I've have to check the time stamps.
michaelthered
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2898 - 2012-03-28 05:16:41 UTC
Andski wrote:
michaelthered wrote:
dude that was never in question. The problem I and a "few" other people are having is that people, urself included it seems, think this is no big deal. I'd think this was bullshit even if i didn't know Wis. For two or three days we heard that Wis got brought up at fanfest by the goons and we had a good laugh over it cause Wis knew what it was about, when they ganked him.....so we were eager to see the video, we knew the goons were going to mock him...he knew it. Nobody had any idea that this little piece of sheise was actually asking people to email wis and tell him to "kill himself". That was completely out of left field. I was stunned when i saw the cavalier nature of that video cause Wis had done nothing to these people except be the victim of their ganking.


so you're confirming that Wis is an emotionally unstable guy on the brink of suicide?

or are you confirming that this is a non-event that some idiots decided to blog about


i didn't know wis at the time he wrote that email so i'm not going to comment. He is not "emotionally unstable" now but he is dealing with ALOT of personal issues. Maybe at the time when he was closer to the end of his marriage he was more unstable I don't know...moreover it doesn't matter. This was never about how close wis is or was to actually committing suicide, it wouldn't matter if Wis had never mentioned being suicidal....how do you not fkcing get that?

Ashen Molotov
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2899 - 2012-03-28 05:17:26 UTC
No they are correct I was wrong he did NOT give out the guys real name. For that I am completely wrong.

It still does not justify what he did. Even the man himself has stated what he did was completely wrong yet these people seem to think it's still ok.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2900 - 2012-03-28 05:17:41 UTC
michaelthered wrote:
Andski wrote:
michaelthered wrote:
dude that was never in question. The problem I and a "few" other people are having is that people, urself included it seems, think this is no big deal. I'd think this was bullshit even if i didn't know Wis. For two or three days we heard that Wis got brought up at fanfest by the goons and we had a good laugh over it cause Wis knew what it was about, when they ganked him.....so we were eager to see the video, we knew the goons were going to mock him...he knew it. Nobody had any idea that this little piece of sheise was actually asking people to email wis and tell him to "kill himself". That was completely out of left field. I was stunned when i saw the cavalier nature of that video cause Wis had done nothing to these people except be the victim of their ganking.


so you're confirming that Wis is an emotionally unstable guy on the brink of suicide?

or are you confirming that this is a non-event that some idiots decided to blog about


i didn't know wis at the time he wrote that email so i'm not going to comment. He is not "emotionally unstable" now but he is dealing with ALOT of personal issues. Maybe at the time when he was closer to the end of his marriage he was more unstable I don't know...moreover it doesn't matter. This was never about how close wis is or was to actually committing suicide, it wouldn't matter if Wis had never mentioned being suicidal....how do you not fkcing get that?




They get it. They are just ignoring it on purpose cause of how bad it makes them and mittens.

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