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Mittani - Resignation. Vote Yes or No. Simple.

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Cailais
The Red Pill Taker Group
#221 - 2012-03-28 18:10:40 UTC
Yes. Purely because it draws a line under the issue and we can move on.

C.
Enormously Huge
Doomheim
#222 - 2012-03-28 18:10:51 UTC
Yes, and he should be banned.
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#223 - 2012-03-28 18:12:58 UTC
If Mittens is banned, can everyone who has ever sent a death threat ingame also be banned?

Oh wait, there will be about 4 people and the japanese noobs left if that happened...
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#224 - 2012-03-28 18:16:05 UTC
Lyrelle
Born Imperialism
#225 - 2012-03-28 18:27:38 UTC
Yes and he should be permanently banned.
Delegado Cero
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#226 - 2012-03-28 18:34:52 UTC
No.

But he should resign as CEO of Goonwaffe, remorse is not a good quality.
lachesis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#227 - 2012-03-28 19:21:17 UTC
to my mind this is getting a little out of hand with regards to peeps forum posts .I watched the HD stream of his performance on the stream . and tbh he made a complete **** of his self

How about this as a compromise mittens is allowed to keep his account however a condition of this that he is not allowed to stand for any CSM roles for a minimum set period determind by the player base . a proviso of this is that he resigns ALL of his roles in goonswarm and is compelled to leave the goonies as part of his punishment . .... for a set period of time untill he realises the ramifications of what he has said live on tv . to my mind absaloute power corrupts absaloutly and i think in this case this is what has happend heh at the end of the day internet spaceships is a seroius business [:=d

lets face it he has essentially embarressed the eve community in front of the world with what he said and how can ccp grow the player base if new players get the impression that we all have this type of attitude and are prepared to conduct our selves in such a manner live on tv . like i said hes essentially got to big for his boots and thinks hes untouchable whilst he has made a public apology to the playey concerned and paid a siutable recompense to said player i wouldnt want him kicked out of the game

tldr mittens has got too big for his boots and should be punished but in essence the playerbase need peeps like him although i dont allways advocate his particular style of play or attitude i dont want to see him kicked i personally think this is a suitable comprimise ....discuss yes im posting with an alt cos i cannot be arsed with the flames .
Lord Reid
Doomheim
#228 - 2012-03-28 19:24:00 UTC
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Zowie Powers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#229 - 2012-03-28 19:27:08 UTC
Would it not be appropriate to start a thread calling for his suicide?

Ya know... just so we can see CCP swiftly respond to "threats" against one of their most favoured customployees?

ATX: The best of the rest.
Zowie Powers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#230 - 2012-03-28 19:29:02 UTC
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
If Mittens is banned, can everyone who has ever sent a death threat ingame also be banned?

Oh wait, there will be about 4 people and the japanese noobs left if that happened...


Well there was this one guy called Boson who was banned for that.

Also, I'd be fine, because I've never made a death threat to anybody in game or out. Except maybe when I was about 8 years old and my brother took my scooter off me.

But seriously, I'd be fine if everybody who makes death threats was banned. Not seeing the problem.

ATX: The best of the rest.
Agent Kyoo
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#231 - 2012-03-28 19:32:56 UTC
YES
Notorious BIG
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#232 - 2012-03-28 19:33:08 UTC
Yes,

He should resign from CSM as chairmen as he represent eve online and the community.

He crossed a line drunk or not and must bare some consequences for that.

Should he be banned ?

I would leave that up to CCP, in however they feel the negative publicity effecting their game.
Lotta Mullarkey
Lotta Monkey Business
#233 - 2012-03-28 19:36:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Lotta Mullarkey
Even though I’m not a big fan of the Goons, I still say NO…!!!

If he himself decides to step down as head of the CSM as he promised he would, than that’s another matter entirely. But it should still be HIS decision and HIS ALONE…! I don’t think CCP should force him to take the fall for this. In fact, I believe CCP has foregone their ability to force him out of the CSM chair. Saying you expect people to show reasonable conduct during an alliance panel is one thing. But not screening presentation material beforehand while at the same time allowing panel members to consume copious amounts of alcohol during the presentation is another and a recipe for disaster at that. They should have realised the potential for something like this to happen. (-1 to CCP).

He did apologise, and although I agree that it is near impossible to judge the sincerity of a written statement, I do believe he meant what he said. I’ve seen the alliance presentation and he sucks as an actor… (Sorry if you’re reading this Alex, but it’s true…). Let Mittens be the villain en Eve… Let him have his 10,059 votes… A lot of people who are not terrible fans of the Goons still appear to applaud all the work Alex did during his previous CSM charmanship. So I still like to believe it’s Alex who's CSM and not Mittens.

This whole “blown out of proportion” witch-hunt needs to stop and CCP needs to step in and start locking treads like this one. If this so called PR disaster results in a code of conduct for CSM’s and alliance panel representatives during future EVE events, than I will be more than satisfied. It’ll probably do more good to CCP’s reputation than simply booting someone out of the game because they had a terrible lapse of judgement while under the influence of alcohol.
lachesis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#234 - 2012-03-28 19:50:16 UTC
Lotta Mullarkey wrote:
Even though I’m not a big fan of the Goons, I still say NO…!!!

If he himself decides to step down as head of the CSM as he promised he would, than that’s another matter entirely. But it should still be HIS decision and HIS ALONE…! I don’t think CCP should force him to take the fall for this. In fact, I believe CCP has foregone their ability to force him out of the CSM chair. Saying you expect people to show reasonable conduct during an alliance panel is one thing. But not screening presentation material beforehand while at the same time allowing panel members to consume copious amounts of alcohol during the presentation is another and a recipe for disaster at that. They should have realised the potential for something like this to happen. (-1 to CCP).

He did apologise, and although I agree that it is near impossible to judge the sincerity of a written statement, I do believe he meant what he said. I’ve seen the alliance presentation and he sucks as an actor… (Sorry if you’re reading this Alex, but it’s true…). Let Mittens be the villain en Eve… Let him have his 10,059 votes… A lot of people who are not terrible fans of the Goons still appear to applaud all the work Alex did during his previous CSM charmanship. So I still like to believe it’s Alex who's CSM and not Mittens.

This whole “blown out of proportion” witch-hunt needs to stop and CCP needs to step in and start locking treads like this one (another -1 to CCP for not doing so… Yet). If this so called PR disaster results in a code of conduct for CSM’s and alliance panel representatives during future EVE events, than I will be more than satisfied. It’ll probably do more good to CCP’s reputation than simply booting someone out of the game because they had a terrible lapse of judgement while under the influence of alcohol.




but do you not think that if we as a community were not allowed to discuss this type of stuff on our own forums what would the rest of none playing observers think about what eve is all about ...at the end of the day we are all ambassadors for this game and if one of the most prominent players is going to conduct him self whilst apparently representing the whole communty ....then what does it say about the rest of us ...i say no to a thread lock in this case ...this is something that needs to be discussed by the whole community ...imo .... my main is prolly one of the oldest characters in eve .... and i simply cannot condone this type of behaviour live in front of the world .... like i said i dont want him kicked but he does need to be set an example by the player base as a hole ...... i have played since 2003 ...and quite frankly im embarressed by his attitude and his perfomance in front oh the world
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#235 - 2012-03-28 19:52:18 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Bibosikus wrote:
Yes

EDIT 27/3 pm:

But -
They should have banned alcohol from the stage, or allowed it and not filmed it. Or a compromise between the two. This isn't hindsight 20-20, this is Television 101. Live tv + alcohol = trouble.


I disagree reality TV 101: just add alcohol you controversy & ratings go through the roof.
You need to go back to school kiddo... "there is no such thing as bad publicity" rule is giving Eve a spotlight right now.
I hope it does attract new subscribers.
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Above said I hope intead of resignation the CSM has a vote of Censure and Mittens quietly accepts it.
I don't beleive they should impeach him but if they do then there should be an Eve wide vote to keep or toss him.
What he said any worse them getting a BJ from monica lewenski & lie ing about it? Or ransaking the watergate equilenent in order to dig up dirt on Darius III? One other US president was impeached & he survived getting tossed out by a very few votes I recall
I'm curious how other peeps from other governments want it done? A no confidence vote? I'd like to see a -1 vote added like abstaining was.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Mathias Hex
#236 - 2012-03-28 20:05:05 UTC
Yes

I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.
adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#237 - 2012-03-28 20:05:38 UTC  |  Edited by: adam smash
Hey everyone in eve your all ******* low life assholes and I hope a space rock kills each and every one of you and disables your closest loved one.




PS Sorry I was drunk when I typed that we all good right?! I mean I said sorry. Roll

O how could I forget to vote...

BAIIIIIIIIIIIII
Count Austheim
Redemption Denied
#238 - 2012-03-28 20:08:57 UTC
Dont care

If this ships a´rockin, then im strangling someone....

http://count-austheim.blogspot.com
lachesis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#239 - 2012-03-28 20:11:09 UTC
Count Austheim wrote:
Dont care




well you should do ...he represents you ...........wether you like it or not ....hes the public face of all the eve player base .
PsychoBitch
Playboy Enterprises
Dark Taboo
#240 - 2012-03-28 20:15:38 UTC
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.