EVE General Discussion

Yes

EDIT 27/3 pm:

But -

I have now watched the whole Alliance Presentation, which by and large was interesting and (thanks, ExookiZ) quite a laugh.

It was however in the fourth quarter that things took a turn for the worse. That should have been expected, because you can clearly see from the beginning that the TEST, DNS and Goon CEO's are already loaded, and have a shedload of more alcohol spread out in front of them.

Their language was foul, their attitudes were loutish and they couldn't give a flying f***. This, from (two anyway) of the most powerful and influential players in the game. OK, probably to be expected but -

This, on a live World Wide Web feed available to any member of Joe Public who cared to click the Play button? That's a freaking PR disaster.

It's actually CCP who has to answer for this. They should have easily seen trouble brewing. They should have cut the feed when the language got out of hand and what was a reasonably professional presentation became a complete fiasco.

They should have banned alcohol from the stage, or allowed it and not filmed it. Or a compromise between the two. This isn't hindsight 20-20, this is Television 101. Live tv + alcohol = trouble.

I'm no prude - I'm thinking here about prospective new players. Because frankly, that half hour of effing, blinding, posturing and insulting is the worst single piece of universal PR nightmare CCP has manufactured, to date. And they could so easily have prevented it.

So I suspect the "investigation" into Mittani will also involve some major introspection and damage limitation.

I still think Mittani should resign as Chairman of the CSM but stay on the committee. He's made a decent and thoughtful apology. He can still be infuential. But he will need to take some definitive action, and giving away the contents of his wallet is no solution; he'll be more than recompensed by supporters.

I guess this thread will be locked soon which is why I've added what I hope is a more objective look at this affair. But for what it's worth, so far the No's outweigh the Yes's.

I'm pretty rabidly anti-Goon and I say no. :)

-Liang

Although I'd really like to see him stay, his remarks on twitter seem to imply he'll resign https://twitter.com/#!/TheMittani

No. It would be Stupid and Trivial to go out like this, taken down by a drunken side comment that was exploited by the press after winning a second term as CSM chairman. Instead, Mittani needs to survive this, thus increasing his ego ten fold, thereby encouraging him to keep doing increasingly extreme, crazy and arrogant things until his Ego can't pull it off anymore, at which point he goes out in a Blaze of Supreme Vain-glory, in an event that we'll be talking about in the years to follow.

But this. This isn't the way to go out. There's no glory. Nothing worthy to remember.

After reading that I think I'd rather him just apologize and call it good. Nobody's immune from being an ass clown from time to time. If you think you are, you're probably just the biggest one in the room.

The Mittani has done good for the game and for the CSM. If he didn't mean that **** then let him say so and if people are still bitching about it... **** 'em.

Doesn't matter if someone votes yes or no. CCP has to decide it. Do they want such a bad press or not?

And alcohol is no excuse anyway. Alcohol is a drug. If you can't handle it and don't know your limits -> don't touch it!


But twitter is the wrong platform.

EVE Forum, maybe DEV Blog <- there it has to be done

No. Also I think this is just Mittani gooning.

The central issue is that major depression (contemplating suicide) is extremely serious. Mittani confused real life with a game. He encouraged his thousands of followers to push that person to suicide.

Mittani must go.

I feel compassion for the Mittani because he has made his real name and appearance public. I suspect he will have to change his real name, because if any prospective employer Googles his name, I doubt they would want to employ him.

So it is in the Mittani's best interests to leave Eve and put the whole thing behind him.

No.

An apology will suffice.

10,000 wasted votes. lol