EVE General Discussion

I do think Mitts is going to get some type of punishment, but damn, can we let the process work first? Let CCP do their investigation first to see what they find.

What exactly is there to investigate?

No investigation was needed to ban Helicity, Kugu, or any of the other people who have been banned for "breaking the EULA", no matter how nebulous their offense.

The fact that they have to "investigate" this is simply insulting to the rest of the playerbase, who needs no investigation. One EULA for everyone, not a separate set of standards and practices for people who they fly to Iceland to have drinks with.

Goon defense of their leader

All this talk about violations of the EULA, but not one person has proven he did, or was in a position to even be CAPABLE of breaching the EULA of a game he was not playing at the time.

PS I have zero issue with freeing Mulla or Helicity or whoever. The bans for the protests were stupid.

So a person who made that blog post, but had no EVE account, would be banned if they ever signed up for one, right? Because that's what you're saying, anything posted on the internet even MENTIONING EVE is subject to the EULA, which is just stupid.

He broadcast an EVE players name for harassment in-game. If I go write a blog on a personal website that says...

"Feligast in EVE is psychologically imbalanced, everyone should get on their EVE accounts and go harass him so that he kills himself. He has expressed suicidal thoughts before, let's send him over the edge!"

I'll be banned by CCP if they know my account information. Any eve player advocating for the in-game harassment of someone, especially with the stated goal of getting the person to commit suicide has violated the EULA. The EULA does not just cover in-game actions when it comes to the intellectual property of CCP. Hence, CCP needs to be consistent in their EULA. If you're not going to enforce it because one player is perceived popular, then don't enforce it for Joe Average EVE Player who wouldn't merit a second thought if he did the same thing.

Or take the easier route and enforce it consistently for all.

Being drunk isn't an excuse.

When the controversy over CCP's micro-transactions last summer was at it's peak, dozens of players were banned for "harassment", with many other threatened. Players like Helicity Boson were banned for telling a Dev to "die in a fire", as a prominent example. Others were banned for even less inflammatory verbiage. Some of them still remain banned, despite doing nothing more than speaking truth to CCP. I almost was banned just for asking players to post a simple "boo" at CCP Soundwave over his Fearless article. CCP employees were indignant about "the level of harassment" against him during the controversy. Yet, calling for players to harass someone until they commit suicide, that's apparently okay provided that they don't work for CCP.

CCP has no consistency with how they enforce their EULA. There are separate rules depending on "who you are." If any of us "normal" players had written the words that Mittani spoke at Fanfest, we would have been automatically banned from the forums and in-game. If you wrote an eve-mail to your corp advocating that they go harass another player who was known to have mental issues until he committed suicide, you would be perma-banned in-game.

Players in the past have been banned for simply helping police the game, one player to the point where you can't even speak his name because he exposed the t2 blueprint scandal years ago. Perhaps if he had been on the CSM, such behavior would have been acceptable, eh?

The devs and company treats their friends and drinking buddies far differently than they treat the average player. The average player would have been instantly banned. You would have been instantly banned for doing even half of what Mittani did on video at fanfest. It would not have taken players pointing it out to the gaming media, it would have been done as soon as a GM or dev saw the harassment. It would not have required some sham "investigation."

Whether or not you agree with their rules, everyone should agree that the company should apply them consistently no matter who the player is. Either remove the rules against harassment, etc, or enforce them across the board fairly and logically.