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Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#221 - 2012-03-26 21:43:25 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Yes. You should care about your liberties. People should be allowed to say whatever the **** they want and not have to worry about if they're going to offend the wrong person.

If you want to speak your mind outside the EULA, leave Eve. If you want to play Eve, abide by the EULA. It's pretty frickin simple.

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Rogan Otsolen
Doomheim
#222 - 2012-03-26 21:44:28 UTC


True...

BUT, he was at a game related function which does fall under TOS/EULA.


Xython wrote:
Rogan Otsolen wrote:


I don't claim to be a lawyer but he was at a game related function which does fall under the TOS/EULA and as such, should be censured for what he did.



It's obviously you aren't a lawyer, otherwise you'd know that it doesn't fall under the TOS/EULA and as such, Mittani is in the clear.
Wacky'Waving Inflatable Tube'Man
Doomheim
#223 - 2012-03-26 21:49:13 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt


so? you don't like, gtfo
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#224 - 2012-03-26 21:49:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Yes. You should care about your liberties. People should be allowed to say whatever the **** they want and not have to worry about if they're going to offend the wrong person.

If you want to speak your mind outside the EULA, leave Eve. If you want to play Eve, abide by the EULA. It's pretty frickin simple.

Well, i guess we have a fuckton of people to ban in Crime+Punishment forum. I could probably find a couple hundred people telling others to kill themselves in about an hour.

Again, "Go kill yourself" etc is a common internet jab. Just like calling someone gay. What if i call YOU gay and you happen to be a closet homo? am i now in huge trouble for gay-bashing etc etc etc

Just **** off. Dont bring your personal life onto the internet, in an environment you KNOW is hostile. If you want to go onto 4chan and cry about your miserable life, its your own goddamn fault when people start making fun of you for it. You want to play internet spaceships? You're going to lose some of them. And when you do, dont go whining about how miserable your IRL is.

If he needs help with his depression then he should find support for that. A violent PVP videogame is not where you go to talk about your depression.

You all might think you're doing this poor guy some good by making a big scene about it. But all you're doing is waving him around like some kind of flag. Have you ever considered that maybe he doesn't want YOU spreading his irl bullshit ALL OVER THE INTERNET? Its no longer contained in this videogame anymore. You kids have made such a big scene its now getting news attention and his life is now being made very public.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#225 - 2012-03-26 21:50:16 UTC
Sarcoteo wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt


It's not about law but ethics, know what that is?


There's nothing unethical about making fun of stupid people.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#226 - 2012-03-26 21:50:38 UTC
Sarcoteo wrote:

So, what's next? You will tell us that poor people, the infirm and minorities should be prosecuted too because they can do no better?


I can if you want me to:

Most poor people are poor because of personal habbits such as drug use and poor life choices, I have literally no pity on them

Every country is moving to a more socialist program where healthcare is concerned, I don't support socialism.


Minorities don't exist anymore, the world is blending together, stop being such a racist.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#227 - 2012-03-26 21:51:00 UTC
Wacky'Waving Inflatable Tube'Man wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt


so? you don't like, gtfo


Who says I didn't like it? I enjoy posting in pubbie tear threads.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#228 - 2012-03-26 21:51:09 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
This is a public relations disaster for CCP.

actually its a huge PR win. CCP gets tons of free publicity over this...

Was collumbine a PR disaster for KMFDM or Manson? no. KMFDM especially got huge profits from the publicity.


Wait, when did I say that?
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#229 - 2012-03-26 21:53:28 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt


Most cyber bullying laws in the US appear centered around schoolkids:
www.cyberbullying.us/Bullying_and_Cyberbullying_Laws.pdf

I very seriously doubt its against the law. Furthermore, from the "victim" in question:
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/571748/

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Wacky'Waving Inflatable Tube'Man
Doomheim
#230 - 2012-03-26 21:54:23 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Wacky'Waving Inflatable Tube'Man wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt


so? you don't like, gtfo


Who says I didn't like it? I enjoy posting in pubbie tear threads.


seems more like you have a compulsive need to respond to every post you don't like. but whatever, that's cool. the world needs more gordo granudos.
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#231 - 2012-03-26 21:56:37 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Wait, when did I say that?

oopsies, sorry bout that. i meant to quote the other guy. fixed.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#232 - 2012-03-26 21:57:48 UTC
Wacky'Waving Inflatable Tube'Man wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Wacky'Waving Inflatable Tube'Man wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt


so? you don't like, gtfo


Who says I didn't like it? I enjoy posting in pubbie tear threads.


seems more like you have a compulsive need to respond to every post you don't like.


Just the ones that contain false information.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Josef Djugashvilis
#233 - 2012-03-26 21:58:22 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Rogan Otsolen wrote:


I do truly wonder if you beleive half the **** you're saying.


I could prove it to you, but unlike the douchebag that wanted to kill himself over a video game, I'll go ahead and keep my personal life out of a video game and just tell you that yes, I actually believe that thinking about killing yourself makes you literally a waste of sperm.

Life is hard, sometimes it sucks, sometimes, your island gets rocked by an earthquake that kills millions, sometimes you get hit by a Tsunami, or you have a dictator for a leader who kills your family in some demonstration of his power.

If you have a computer, a home, and the internet to play games from, your life is not that bad (and far better off than the people i gave examples of) and you are just basically a big drama queen looking for attention, and anybody that feeds you that attention just reinforces the fact that acting like a drama queen gets you attention.



When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post.

This is not a signature.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#234 - 2012-03-26 22:00:08 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:

When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post.


I'm a married father of 4 and grandfather of 1.


Suicide still makes you a pussy.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Sarcoteo
Ocularis Initiatives
#235 - 2012-03-26 22:03:54 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:

When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post.


I'm a married father of 4 and grandfather of 1.


Suicide still makes you a *****.


Jackpot! Lol
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#236 - 2012-03-26 22:03:59 UTC
Sarcoteo wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt


It's not about law but ethics, know what that is?


Ethics? In an Internet Spaceship game?

Hahahahaha! Adorable pubbies.
Josef Djugashvilis
#237 - 2012-03-26 22:07:24 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:

When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post.


I'm a married father of 4 and grandfather of 1.


Suicide still makes you a *****.



My apologies, I meant mental age.

This is not a signature.
Kimmiy Kimasre
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#238 - 2012-03-26 22:08:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Kimmiy Kimasre
Xython wrote:
Sarcoteo wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt


It's not about law but ethics, know what that is?


Ethics? In an Internet Spaceship game?

Hahahahaha! Adorable pubbies.


The problem here is what was said outside of the game, if you hadn't noticed. The original in-game actions, while detestable, were still at least a private matter. Now this is very public.

This is not about the person's threat to commit suicide because of what happened in the game, this is about Mittani's response and his behavior in a public forum run by CCP.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#239 - 2012-03-26 22:08:10 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:

When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post.


I'm a married father of 4 and grandfather of 1.


Suicide still makes you a *****.



My apologies, I meant mental age.


Right, because not taking pity on cowardly oxygen sponges somehow makes me immature.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#240 - 2012-03-26 22:08:10 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
Well, i guess we have a fuckton of people to ban in Crime+Punishment forum. I could probably find a couple hundred people telling others to kill themselves in about an hour.

That's up to CCP to enforce the EULA. But no one should cry foul play for Mittens if he did violate the EULA. He's a lawyer, he knows this.

[quote=Terminal Insanity]If he needs help with his depression then he should find support for that. A violent PVP videogame is not where you go to talk about your depression.

Your opinion is irrelevant to the facts. The facts are, there is a EULA, and it covers harassment. The questions are, (1) will CCP find the Mittani was harassing, and (2) if so, will they act within the EULA.

That's really all that matters. What you or I think of this guy is completely irrelevant, and I have no idea why you keep ranting in this thread, since again, your opinion means nothing to the outcome.

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.