Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The argument is simple, if you impliment a PLEX=X mil SP system you are simply raising the standards of entry to the game. New players will be forced to burn 100's of dollars just to feel like they can compete with everyone else that is buying skills. This alone would turn many of the less fortunate players from the game and stagnate the population. Nothing will be solved by this, if this ever happens only the rich or the really old vets will be able to play the game. I personally know many new players and help them as best as I can.

On to what really matters, the fact that a younger player can compete with the older ones quite well after just 3 months is the normal and not the acception. Eve is a complicated game and it takes several months to get the nuances of the mechanics down. Ironically it also takes several months to skill up to a reasonable level to really be competitive with the already established players. This timeline might have been on purpose, it might of been by accident, but the fact is that it works well.

Being a veteran eve player (playing 4 years now) I know for a fact that there are characters out there that have 4x the SP that I do. But that doesn't matter because I have a lot of friends, and he has a lot of friends, so lets shoot each others friends.

The advice I always give to new players is simple:
-Find a good group of friends that play when you play
-Start working on you Core Competency Standard Cert (I know certs are crap but it gives new players focus, and the Core Competency ones are ok)
-Dable into the different career paths and play styles in Eve, train low end skills between competency skills
-Ask questions and do your own research, hopefully there is a vet around you can annoy with questions
-Forget about your skill points, enjoy the game and don't worry if someone is ahead of you, just like in real life, if you have the skill you can get a promotion/job over someone with more experience if you know what your doing

Better than a NPC posting alt.

Mayhaps. But that's still a 4 year old account your posting with.

The only way I could agree a little to this kind of idea would be if as i said, the character gets locked to the account, so that it can not be misused in any way by the character bazar, and second, if for the next 30 days you can not train anything. (to let the mind cool down or something)

One thing every player needs to keep in mind when playing this game is that it is not a who-can-get-the-best-ship-first kind of game. Skills are important in the sense that the game hold back on stuff you might not be ready to use yet. So that you won't get more angry about you dying more but don't kow why.

And lastly, this is a MMO, it is a game meant to be played together with others. What might be an impossible hurdle for you alone may seem like a breeze with others. Flying with a friend means double the firepower and his strengths will cover for your weaknesses and vice versa.

This made me wonder about what percentage of forums like this and WoW leveling styles are created by players who don't understand the current level system or are actually trolls.

regardless they can be some interesting forums.

Yes something like this would only result in more tears from newer players who don't know how to fit their new battleship right because they fast tracked it.

Also, I doubt any player that is new to EVE would spend the money to do this, after playing a game for 3 months would you spend additional money to the subscription fee? I wouldn't, and if I couldn't compete in the game otherwise, I would simply quit because I'm not going to spend money on something like this in a game I've only played for 3 months I would feel like I'm being taken advantage of instead and simply unsub in disgust and warn other people not to play such a game.

you dont need a lot of SP to be effective or useful in this game.
if you werent that f*cking rtarded, you would get this by yourself.

moron, get out.

Lies

Besides pandering to the 'instant gratification' crowd, which is not what this MMO is about, you are effective early on if you work with others, which is what the new members of my corp are finding after only being in the game for a few weeks at most, they're running a few level 4 missions to earn some isk as a team, even though none of them are capable of flying battleships yet. There are even players less than a week or two old helping out in their destroyers, hence the second M in the MMO classification of this type of game, teamplay.

This idea would also be of immense use to those with botting accounts following the new rules put in place by CCP Skreegs, whereby a character is locked to the account when they are judged to have been using bots. They could easily use the money gained from their botting activities to almost instantly train up a new character to continue in those activities, so for that reason and the one above I cannot in good conscience ever support such an idea.