EVE General Discussion

That didn't even make any sense.

*shakes head sadly*

Even the quality of flaming has gone down hill in this game. I used to engage in a little forum php with people that had the brains to argue effectively. Now look at that pathetic excuse for a flame? Looks like a nearly depleted bic lighter. Pathetic really.

You're looking to the wrong girl for a flame then. I was simply making a joke based on your insistence that Eve Online has changed.

I dunno, he's got some good points. Concord is fine but the rest of his points make sense:

-Level 4 missions pay out too much compared to low/null. No incentive to leave high sec
-Sov warfare reduced to massive blobs in one system
-No goals for small gangs
-Most 0.0 is empty/unused

For the past year the game has gotten a lot more carebear with the incursion/incarna expansions but those met with such disastrous effects that CCP is working towards making it more fun and pvp oriented again.

The thing is it is just insanely hard to get any sort of feedback to CCP. You'd think with the CSM it'd be easier to get even small bugs/issues fixed but it seems to be exactly the opposite.

Sometimes it feels like the lead CCP devs/gms/whatever have never played the game. I think that if the devs played Eve for 4 hours a day as their job then all small bugs/issues would be gone within 30 days and the game would be perfect within 6 months.

And does this not help you see the validity of my original post?

Yes many of his points were valid, and some people tried to make constructive posts in reply, with how they make the game an enjoyable experience for them, however when the ego came out and the attitude started it made all his words invalid in my mind. Rells, you arnt the only person to start and run a great corp but if all you have is negativity to the game and its players then you know what to do.

Eve would be the worst MMO out there, if it weren't for all the other MMOs.

Not a derail really.

I can answer the question one of two ways.

1) There are no games out there that are either what eve was or promised to achieve in its early days.

2) As for Eve's current situation. Strip away the graphics and get right down to gameplay and it is 99% identical to every other PvE centric MMORPG. Eve, Everquest, DAOC, World of warcraft. Not a hell of a lot of difference between them.

I dunno. I've been playing for almost three weeks andI've fallen into the trap of grinding for ISK, despite the fact that I see myself as a PvPer. I don't know how I ended up doing things like exploration, it's just the way things panned out for me. Also I don't feel scared or threatened by anyone, so long as I don't do stupid nobody will pop me. So I go through system after system scanning down sites and looting then selling it on the market then looking at various min-max loadouts and adding it to my skill Q.

This isn't what I signed up for and it's probably my mostly my own fault but the game has created a comfort zone that's hard to get out of. I went into low sec a couple of times and had a couple of skirmishes where I just ran to the get before they could lock or get a couple of rounds off. I just gave up on it since I just don't have the ships to fight a tengu or drake.

The only fun I have had in PvP so far is on sisi where people where more relaxed and willing to show me some of the basics and I could lose a dozen ships and not have to worry about things too much wheras in the main server people have a tendancy to be arsehats or hostile.

I really like some of your points and i wonder whether i joined this game to late.


Like another poster in this thread it is easy to fall into a comfort zone and just grind up isk. When i used to play a lot more i would grind up about 4 billion isk and then just stop pveing and do more risky things and then i started building and ive never got enough isk.


Personally i believe that if you want to get more people into nullsec to fight and organise themselves they go initally as carebears as there are more riches out there and then they start to fight for what they have found but the game mechanics inhibit this.

A number of times i have gone to nullsec solo and sat in a system and seen no one for days and then i kill a few rats and there are players swamping the system. Nullsec becomes a pointless endevour for most people as an alliance leader can see all activity in nullsec just by looking at the maps and dotlan.

Space is vast and you can get lost there but not on EVE. you can be tracked with every move you make.


Getting started and creating a logistics chain is impossible for most people in this game.

But if you reputation is so great why dont you start again and try to change things,


Counter point

If this really is a sandbox people should be able to do as they like, but your mechanics would only allow for a streaming of professions towards large alliances and pvp only.

post pictures of all your family members

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