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Criminals and Safe Orca utilization
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IM0001
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-04-12 15:16:37 UTC
Ok.. So why can't you get another group to be on the other side of the gate, then when you get the Orca to scoop everything and jump through, you gank the crap out of it on the other side?

It may be expensive on your end, but would it not be more expensive for them? Unless they have a scout/other fleet(pods) on the other side, what are they going to do?
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-04-12 15:19:34 UTC
IM0001 wrote:
Ok.. So why can't you get another group to be on the other side of the gate, then when you get the Orca to scoop everything and jump through, you gank the crap out of it on the other side?

It may be expensive on your end, but would it not be more expensive for them? Unless they have a scout/other fleet(pods) on the other side, what are they going to do?

Because orca killmail < legion killmail. Especialy when you have to get concorded to get at the damn thing.
IM0001
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-04-12 15:49:37 UTC  |  Edited by: IM0001
Astroniomix wrote:
IM0001 wrote:
Ok.. So why can't you get another group to be on the other side of the gate, then when you get the Orca to scoop everything and jump through, you gank the crap out of it on the other side?

It may be expensive on your end, but would it not be more expensive for them? Unless they have a scout/other fleet(pods) on the other side, what are they going to do?

Because orca killmail < legion killmail. Especialy when you have to get concorded to get at the damn thing.


True. But would the satisfaction of taking out an Orca with a Legion + whatever else it may hold not be sort of rewarding into itself?

Ya never know if the Orca dumps the Legion and then jumps out of the Orca to pilot it away, timed and prepped right you could at least come out with a free ship. :/

I guess it is all about the paperwork.
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-04-12 15:51:49 UTC
IM0001 wrote:
Astroniomix wrote:
IM0001 wrote:
Ok.. So why can't you get another group to be on the other side of the gate, then when you get the Orca to scoop everything and jump through, you gank the crap out of it on the other side?

It may be expensive on your end, but would it not be more expensive for them? Unless they have a scout/other fleet(pods) on the other side, what are they going to do?

Because orca killmail < legion killmail. Especialy when you have to get concorded to get at the damn thing.


True. But would the satasfaction of taking out an Orca with a Legion + whatever else it may hold not be sort of rewarding into itself?

Ya never know if the Orca dumps the Legion and then jumps out of the Orca to pilot it away, timed and prepped right you could at least come out with a free ship. :/

I guess it is all about the paperwork.

No orca pilot (or alt) is going to jeteson a legion in the 1-2 seconds it takes for a group of tornadoes to alpha him.
KuaFu
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-04-12 16:02:41 UTC
I have no sympathy for anything that comes from Pandemic Legion.
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-04-12 16:05:49 UTC
KuaFu wrote:
I have no sympathy for anything that comes from Pandemic Legion.

So you created an alt just to post in this thread?
KuaFu
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-04-12 16:06:40 UTC
Astroniomix wrote:
KuaFu wrote:
I have no sympathy for anything that comes from Pandemic Legion.

So you created an alt just to post in this thread?


Don't be so bigheaded
IM0001
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-04-12 16:13:19 UTC  |  Edited by: IM0001
It is a bummer that the Killmail is more important than the actual loss of an Orca + Legion I guess. Sure there is no proof (unless they video it or something) but both sides would know what they lost/killed either way.

Now another fix for this sort of tactic... Fix Killmails to show what was inside all the holds/hangers?
Chicken Pizza
One-man Armada
#29 - 2012-04-12 16:16:41 UTC
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Aqriue wrote:
Don't engage obvious WTF is that doing there? Straight

Really, an orca? Something smells fishy and it isn't the girl you brought home. Move along, find another target.

And its currently working as intended. That means, its tied to the player, which is tied to the pod, which isn't tied to the ship they just jumped out. So, aim for the orca instead and ram it out side scooping range assuming you have competent back up webbing the loki farther away. ****, force the orca off grid FFS and don't worry about the Loki at first if its just 1 ship.


Solution to all large ship problems - Bump them into oblivionPirate


One fatal flaw in your theory: the Orca will jump the gate as soon as he sees you're approaching him in something big enough to move him off of the gate.
bartos100
Living Ghost
#30 - 2012-04-12 16:20:00 UTC
i think a change to the scooping mechanic is more effective

make it like jumping in a ship if it is targeted by someone you can't scoop it

meaning that once you engage the legion it can't be scooped untill you guys break lock
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