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Is this Fanfest public behavior actually okay? Are there any limits?

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#121 - 2012-03-25 23:05:48 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Andski wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
In another PVP MMO I play, GMs took very permanently serious account decisions when similar situations happened.

Being psychologically weak to the point of risking suicide is not a joke, I had a guild mate (in that MMO) committing suicide just 2 months ago. It was not pretty.

There should be a thresold where being a d!ck in EvE should stop.

Sad to see some don't. I suppose it's the same group claiming that they RP being a d!ck in EvE but are the perfect man IRL.


okay I'll pretend to be depressed so that anybody who violences my ships gets banned from the game



Cool jokes about peoples dead freinds.. sure your ma's very proud of you fella


If you're "psychologically weak to the point of risking suicide" you should not be playing EVE, period.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#122 - 2012-03-25 23:10:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Alphane
Andski wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
Andski wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
In another PVP MMO I play, GMs took very permanently serious account decisions when similar situations happened.

Being psychologically weak to the point of risking suicide is not a joke, I had a guild mate (in that MMO) committing suicide just 2 months ago. It was not pretty.

There should be a thresold where being a d!ck in EvE should stop.

Sad to see some don't. I suppose it's the same group claiming that they RP being a d!ck in EvE but are the perfect man IRL.


okay I'll pretend to be depressed so that anybody who violences my ships gets banned from the game



Cool jokes about peoples dead freinds.. sure your ma's very proud of you fella


If you're "psychologically weak to the point of risking suicide" you should not be playing EVE, period.



Why exactly , high sec is a very peaceful and calming place, you ,as all you PVP addicts, seem to think evrbody plays the same way as you and you need to be some intraweebs tough guy (RE Goons - Hard men are you? yes? no your pathetic bullies) , get over it you fool.

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#123 - 2012-03-25 23:13:08 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Why exactly , high sec is a very peaceful and calming place, you ,as all you PVP addicts, seem to think evrbody plays the same way as you and you need to be some intraweebs tough guy (RE Goons - Hard men are you? yes? no your pathetic bullies) , get over it you fool.


no part of the game is meant to be a "very peaceful and calming place"

high-sec is far from being an exception - go look at all the market PvP in jita

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#124 - 2012-03-25 23:13:12 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Oh Mittens! Let me caress your mighty dong!

Mittens wrote:
Get in line, bro, I'm busy being fondled by all the other goons.

Ladie Harlot wrote:
Oh mighty Mittens! How might I appeal to your massive ego so that I may secure access to your pants and Iteron Mk V!?

Mittens wrote:
Poast on the forums so that you may embarrass yourself and every goon there is. Now, begone, I must attend to the drunken, idiotic masses of goons who wish to feel me up.

Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#125 - 2012-03-25 23:21:59 UTC
Andski wrote:
"very peaceful and calming place"


Maybe your not doing it right Blink

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]

MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#126 - 2012-03-25 23:22:04 UTC  |  Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Lord Pestilence wrote:
I was present at the alliance panel...and i must say that Mittani totally went overboard on this one.

If i remember correctly he stated: "If you really want this guy to kill himself, go send him a mail...his name is "insert name". ".

I didn´t have much respect for the man before that point...but a character that finds this acceptable and funny is irredeemable.

If this is true this is very disheartening. And it's even a greater shame that CCP allows this kind of behavior on its premises, nevermind the fact that this individual is a liason representative between the community and the company.

I don't expect individuals like the mittani to understand or care about crossing the line between game and real life, but CCP should know better.

There was a time I actually considered going to one of these events. I'm glad I haven't and won't.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#127 - 2012-03-25 23:25:05 UTC
a bloo bloo blooooooooooooooo

10,058 never forget~

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Kain De'Stroi
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#128 - 2012-03-25 23:28:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Kain De'Stroi
it is very borderline imho, we step out of character when we go to fanfest.
if we start to behave like we do in game in real life things could become really ugly.
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#129 - 2012-03-26 00:13:48 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
Ban Bindy wrote:
See the thread Fanfest Alliance Panel Disgusting.

See in particular post #68, in which someone's in game eve mail is posted to the forums.

If this is what these people actually did and said at the panel, this is so totally disgusting and sadistic that it can't be accepted.

I don't care about what happens in the game, since I can't do anything about it.

Holding someone up to PUBLIC ridicule in real life and following it up by encouraging people to continue this behavior on the forums, by posting the guy's eve mail to the forums, is not acceptable behavior by a human being.

You should read the thread if you want background. The quick version is that this person was apparently very rich in the tears that these plays love so much. He is referred to as depressed and suicidal. If the thread is accurate, our CSM chair encouraged people to get in touch with this guy and harass him further and gave out his name at the panel. Someone followed this up by posting one of the guy's eve mails to the forums.

These are major eve players actually encouraging people to cause a play psychological harm, and in a PUBLIC context outside the game. This cannot be accepted.


deal with it~


Look at this douche-wad. I'm all for trolling, but if what the OP says is true and you and your cronies were, in fact, encouraging someone who is already suicidal to commit suicide, you should go kill yourself.

edit: Deal with it.
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#130 - 2012-03-26 00:17:23 UTC
Meryl SinGarda wrote:

Look at this douche-wad. I'm all for trolling, but if what the OP says is true and you and your cronies were, in fact, encouraging someone who is already suicidal to commit suicide, you should go kill yourself.

edit: Deal with it.

And he just forced you to abandon the very morals that you were trying to defend. lulz

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#131 - 2012-03-26 00:18:50 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:

Look at this douche-wad. I'm all for trolling, but if what the OP says is true and you and your cronies were, in fact, encouraging someone who is already suicidal to commit suicide, you should go kill yourself.

edit: Deal with it.

And he just forced you to abandon the very morals that you were trying to defend. lulz


Not entirely. From what I've seen Mittens isn't exactly suicidal. Then again, if I were him...
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#132 - 2012-03-26 00:20:04 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:

Look at this douche-wad. I'm all for trolling, but if what the OP says is true and you and your cronies were, in fact, encouraging someone who is already suicidal to commit suicide, you should go kill yourself.

edit: Deal with it.

And he just forced you to abandon the very morals that you were trying to defend. lulz



Sometimes you just got to fight fire with fire .... also rather ironic name given the thread

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]

Zeet A'Dron
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#133 - 2012-03-26 00:22:00 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Lord Pestilence wrote:
I was present at the alliance panel...and i must say that Mittani totally went overboard on this one.

If i remember correctly he stated: "If you really want this guy to kill himself, go send him a mail...his name is "insert name". ".

I didn´t have much respect for the man before that point...but a character that finds this acceptable and funny is irredeemable.

If this is true this is very disheartening. And it's even a greater shame that CCP allows thid kind of behavior on its premises, nevermind the fact that this individual is a liason representative between the community and the company.

I don't expect individuals like the mittani to understand or care about crossing the line between game and real life, but CCP should know better.

There was a time I actually considered going to one of these events. I'm glad I haven't and won't.



I agree. This is nonsense. I'm tired of hearing about this Mittani guy and the Goons. For the record I could give a rat's ass about the populairty club that is CSM.

CSM is a joke and so is their leader.
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#134 - 2012-03-26 00:24:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
Meryl SinGarda wrote:


Not entirely. From what I've seen Mittens isn't exactly suicidal. Then again, if I were him...

Oh please. The Mittani's actions are obviously caused by his Pimply faced Obesity and you're telling him he should kill himself.

Both The Mittani and this 20-account-carebear are depressed and you're not helping the situation by telling ether one of them to kill themselves. How are you any better then he is? Let me guess, because you're american?

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

space gator
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#135 - 2012-03-26 00:55:26 UTC  |  Edited by: space gator
Comments being discussed are around 1:11:59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Ki91U-mBE&list=HL1332571817&feature=mh_lolz

Edit: It's not my post on youtube and it's shown as unlisted, so I don't know if it will stay up.
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#136 - 2012-03-26 01:44:17 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
It's pretty funny that you have people watching a TV stream who have never been to Fanfest trying to wag their fingers and cluck as if this is Hello Kitty Online. This is EVE, and Fanfest is a drunken, shambolic revel - it always has been, if you've been to one.

Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself.



A fool gives full vent to his spirit, but a wise man quietly holds it back.

Don't violence me bro!

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#137 - 2012-03-26 03:34:33 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:

Look at this douche-wad. I'm all for trolling, but if what the OP says is true and you and your cronies were, in fact, encouraging someone who is already suicidal to commit suicide, you should go kill yourself.

edit: Deal with it.

And he just forced you to abandon the very morals that you were trying to defend. lulz


Some men just want to watch the world burn.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Damion Rayne
Panoptic
#138 - 2012-03-26 03:41:50 UTC
The immaturity of all the people in this thread blows me away. "This is eve" sure, we play a game where people loose things, but at the end of the day, taking this into the real world and meta gaming it, which is thee only thing goons and Mittani know how to do, is crossing the line.

The Mittani and Goons are thee single greatest threat to Eve Online period. These are the people that drop real world death threats, and you people are OK with this? You say "Deal with it" when I wonder what you'd do or think, if a goon sent you a death threat in real life?

Anyway, doing all the stuff we do in a game is fine..but when it comes to this ****? It's crossing the line.

ROA

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#139 - 2012-03-26 03:59:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
Damion Rayne wrote:
The immaturity of all the people in this thread blows me away. "This is eve" sure, we play a game where people loose things, but at the end of the day, taking this into the real world and meta gaming it, which is thee only thing goons and Mittani know how to do, is crossing the line.

The Mittani and Goons are thee single greatest threat to Eve Online period. These are the people that drop real world death threats, and you people are OK with this? You say "Deal with it" when I wonder what you'd do or think, if a goon sent you a death threat in real life?

Anyway, doing all the stuff we do in a game is fine..but when it comes to this ****? It's crossing the line.


What the hell is all this? CCP Marketing didn't call Goons the best alliance in Eve for nothing. Anyone emotionally fragile enough to be pushed to suicide over a game really doesn't need to be playing that game.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Nybbas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#140 - 2012-03-26 04:05:05 UTC
space gator wrote:
Comments being discussed are around 1:11:59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Ki91U-mBE&list=HL1332571817&feature=mh_lolz

Edit: It's not my post on youtube and it's shown as unlisted, so I don't know if it will stay up.



THANK YOU. I just had to read through page after page of goons thinking they are awesome, and other retards trying to somehow reason with the biggest trolls on the internet, just to find this damn video. I am not sure it was worth it.