Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Let's say....that you live in a big secure city. Would you spec somebody shotting at you just cause' you bought a new Tv ?


Let's continue with that analogy. You are at a big shopping mall, and start shotting randomly at people with a cop by your side. You are gonna get instantly killed by him.

Empire = Secured zone. I don't agree with 100% secure cause' there's nothing in this world like that. But you shouldn't be playing constantly with D-Scan while you are mining, totally afraid, in empire (For example).

I don't have a pimped tengu, in fact, mine is pretty cheap (All T2) but i have to play like i'm in low sec if the system is busy. With instant warp bookmarks and with D-Scan. All because some huheauheauheau dudes thinks that pvp is fitting 4-5 tornados in the station pop tengu's that can't even fight back.

The worse thing, is that is totally profitable to do that. Why should i care about losing some 100m top ships when i can get a 1.5b module ?

High sec PvP? I thought there was a low sec somewhere in game hmm does high sec actually have high security hmm and low sec has low security for pirates and the like to thrive... Now that just doesnt make any sense!

As a side note to the main topic of this thread, I never did understand why it was possible to regain security status so easily by shooting some rats?

What if CCP made it that once a player reached -5.00 (or lower) status, that player could never regain status? That is, the player is considered an outlaw by society and no matter how forgiving that player becomes in later life, no matter how many "evil" npc rats he or she destroy, they are forever labeled and could never come back.

It would give casual gankers something to consider, no?

You've made some very good points, and people improving and adapting to what eve throws at them is a good thing. My main problem is that many players will just stop playing instead, especcially when getting hit by gankers that are looking more for tears than actual profits.

My opinion on ganking would disapear instantly however if the bounty system was fixed and actually worked. Having a viable responce for those not interested in PvP would instantly justify ganking in high-sec, whilst simultaneously giving birth to the Bounty Hunter profession that CCP just LOVES to advertise. Bounty hunting would be like the anti-ganker profession, and would lead to even more PvP, which is what they want, so they like to go on about.

Big Fat Liar.

It's a SANDBOX.

Get used to it or go elsewhere.........after almost 10 years it still can't sink in, huh.

Actually the safest way to move T2 bpo's is to put them in a small can, trade the can to an alt, and then have the alt courier contract the can back to you. Once the can is in the plastic wrap, throw it in a cloaky buffered T3 and you're set.

Not responding to a "ganker wishlist" at this time as it's a futile effort.

I would just like to state for all those people that just don't get it.


Ganks in high sec are not about being a space samurai, wondering around matching your pvp skills with others. It's about killing swiftly and moving on, mostly for profit, sometimes for punishment, other times for indirect gain. Where do people get this idea that at P v P has to emulate jousting. It is piracy like advertised on the box. Plundering the shipping lanes. These shipping lanes are not in low sec bros. Killing moron fitted tech 1 cruisers and BCs in low sec is the dumbest thing in eve I can contemplate of doing tbh.

So those saying get out of high sec, completely miss the point and don't even get what this game is about.


Finally, what makes people think they are entitled to absolute safety doing profitable activities and then using their profit to interact further with the wider population of eve that is constantly at conflict. You don't see a problem with that? Just because you like it or you prefer it. Newsflash, everyone prefers to just push button for isk risk free. Seriously, if people cannot see the imbalance of complete safety, they are beyond reasoning.


Also, if you see "tears" in my post, go visit a psychiatrist immediately.

I'm fully aware of the fact that assest destruction is not an ISK sink. The sourcing of new implants is however under the NPC LP system. As such the idea of have a fifty-fifty chance of obtaining +5 implants from simply extracting or "recycling" them from corpses implies a significant reduction in the current sink useage. Your correct it will act to reduce prices, but that was also part of my points in how it would impact the LP rewards and current economy by simply providing easy sources of high valued assests. So much so that it would simply make it the most economic process to aquire implants, somehow this doesn't sit well, especially when these rewards have in no way been considered with any offset with either risk or effort.

It is also perhaps relevant of the posts that provide examples of how suicide gankers can plex in an afternoon or an evening based on recent reports from the "Crime Spree" testimonials. So I hardly see a need to provide simpler significant isk sources into the mix as a result.

It also cheapens the desired proposals of making pod killing more relevant as a security issue. Perhaps add insurance for implants to make it relevant for extractions but not as competative, rewarding or easy as you are currently proposing or the removal of the associated isk sinkage which could be accomodated with NPC costs to perform. It would also need a rebalance of LP costs as a result imho.



Appreciate the confidence, but I will continue to repeat the message on BH aslong as it is needed. I have been curtailing my involvement to where it's best topically involved.

Also the ideas on smuggling I quoted and posted in the AH are a relatively new introduction if pre-fanfest. (Originally posted in F&I a while ago where I encouraged people to suggest possible other criminal elements to cover as part of a process to review criminal behaviour as part of a larger and more comprehensive proposal)

Principally, however, I'd like to think the BH as a kind of reward to the criminal element. As it may provide an enrichment in the funsics commodity amongst other reasons I have mentioned previously.

Nobody points out the truth.

Gate/ station camper, suicide, gank PvP in EVE is boring.
Sure you will get a kill here and there but for the most part you don't. It's a huge time sink with a reward lottery that is minimal at best. Payload kills are one in a million and rumors of payload killmails feed the scam.

Nobody is making billions bringing T2 BPO's in with an Orca. T2 BPO's never leave thier stations. You don't even see copies of them in Jita.

What you really mean is you want suicide griefing and gate camping to be fun. Too bad.

It was changed so that npc's can scan it but not players. Now you get busted for smuggling in an Orca.

It was part of a mechanic change that was for WiS, since they scrapped that the mechanic is indefinitely broken.