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well. i don't think last droneland war started because of future nerf

I wish there was a place that was hard to find but much safer than 0.0 space to mine ABC's and Mercoxit.

Oh wait, all the WH dwellers will change over to mining once the ISK per hour exceeds running sleeper sites for T3 materials.

If you look over the past few years of market data you will find that once WH space was added the high end mineral prices dropped like a rock. It's kind hard to imagine making 30-40 mil per hour mining high end ores, but that is exactly what happened when WH space was added, at least at first. Then once everyone realized how safe WH mining was, everyone started doing it. Even a boring C1 WH can have grav sites that spawn enough ore to supply 5 or 6 miners with 8 or 9 hours of nonstop mining of just the high end ores.

If you think of all the people who live out of WH space who just ignore grav sites, this will add up to a sizable number. They will either start mining, find miners to join them, or "rent" space to miners.

2500 systems full of high end ores WILL make a difference once people start mining them!

Not at all.

So the bet are on Zydrine? :)

Answer is simple - you need hundreds of billions to manipulate each of the markets. No one noticed that drone poo removal is still only to come?

Calm before inevitable shitstorm come day after patch day.

Considering the hype and sheer size of invested capital, im not sure whether prices will plummet with all the short term investors dumping stock or rise rapidly with all the long term investors helping force the speculation bubble.

The price is artificially high atm, but because the nerf is spreading like wildfire, everyone is holding off on selliing except those who were happy to buy in @ 700-800 and cash out @ 1600.

Cant complain about 100% ROI in 30days.

Aren't you ignoring the fact the non-drone sources have been fantastically increased? W-space alone could easily supply the whole game if the incentive was sufficient, and 7.5kp/u would definitely be sufficient, since that's what? 80M/hr+ per Hulk? 100M/hr? Not to mention the largely untouched ABC belts in sov 0.0, not to mention the potential from mining anoms in Industrially Upgraded sov systems. I'm no great fan of mining, but I have Hulk capable characters on both of my accounts and for 200M/hr you can bet I'd get them both shooting rocks right away.

High ends will rise to the level it which it pays to mine in nullsec and no higher.

Even excluding the drone regions, potential supply is vastly higher than it was pre-drone regions. Active population as maybe doubled, but W-space alone has more than doubled the potential supply, without even counting mining anomalies.

EDIT: Not to mention Orcas, Rorquals, Hulks that are 200M not 500M, the generally higher average SP level, much more efficient supply chains (Jump Freighters, Jump Bridges) and probably several other factors all of which mean that potential supply will still exceed demand.

Your claims of half a billion an hour are literally less than irrelevant. Not everyone claims to be or is even interested in being a pro trader.

So substitute "whatever you do" for "pro trader". It's still a valid point, and your half billion an hour claims are still less than irrelevant.