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Inconsistent Revelations
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-09-10 17:25:26 UTC
I am not asking what item is best, but has anyone else noticed that its getting harder to get 2000 isk per lp than it used to?

A few months ago I was able to consistently get 2k isk/lp but now all my old items are going for 1000 isk/lp at best.

Is it just cause I suck or is it because of the lvl 4 mission buff they did for Incarna?
Shayla Sh'inlux
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-09-10 17:33:09 UTC
What on earth are you running that consistently offers 2k isk per LP?

I'm hard-pressed to even hit 1k isk per LP. A Federation Web is around 700 isk/LP. A Navy Raven not even 500. Sisters probes and launchers are pretty good isk/LP, but have low traffic. Concord LP are nice as well, but it takes ages to get the required amounts for the big ticket items.

So either you're sitting on a goldmine or you should adjust your expectations.
Inconsistent Revelations
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-09-10 17:48:29 UTC
I'm talking about my stuff from before Incarna, 2k isk/lp was pretty easy to find, now days I'm hard pressed to find any thing that goes for that much.

Faction ammo goes for roughly 1k/lp if you use sell orders.
Mealtrom
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-09-10 17:52:46 UTC
Inconsistent Revelations wrote:
I'm talking about my stuff from before Incarna, 2k isk/lp was pretty easy to find, now days I'm hard pressed to find any thing that goes for that much.

Faction ammo goes for roughly 1k/lp if you use sell orders.


Faction ammo hasn't been going for 2k/LP for some time. If anything its been going up slightly since the mission nerfs lowered overall volume. I still make 3K/LP but thats a trade secret. Big smile
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#5 - 2011-09-10 17:54:38 UTC
From what I've been seeing, LP just isn't as profitable as it once was. Exacty why I can't say (though I'd assume it's either more lvl 4 farmers or the introduction of concord lp via incursions).

"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes it makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears
Firebolt145
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#6 - 2011-09-10 17:58:55 UTC
Lol.
TLweken
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-09-10 18:03:52 UTC
I find it hard to get 1k lp too, tempest fleet issues are only 700isk/lp :-(.
Forever Infiniti
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-09-10 18:07:07 UTC
I can get 2.7k/lp+ In Empire running 4's for a certain corp

If I stare at the door long enough, maybe, just maybe, it'll open
Mealtrom
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-09-10 18:26:04 UTC
Forever Infiniti wrote:
I can get 2.7k/lp+ In Empire running 4's for a certain corp


Does this corp happened to be named "Federal Defense Union"? Because I don't count that as empire. :Pirate
Din'stalor Alaric
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-09-10 18:53:53 UTC
I too make around the 2.8k isk per LP from running level 4's aswell.

Since im more than happy for people to come down to where i mission run and kill them im happy to tell you all how. I run level 4's for blood raiders where i can buy a cruor bpc for 20k LP plus 10mill isk. A built Cruor sells for about 70-80mill. Takes very few minerals to make and i get those from random mission salvaging when i can be bothered.

Id advise coming to Delve to run these in something like a CNR or a Paladin or any really expensive battleship. If you would like a cyno lighting in on a station to jump your carrier down, this too can be arranged.

Solo 4 Life.1v1 always honored, flying without booster alt since Oct 2010. No ransoms honored even if offered :)
Forever Infiniti
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-09-10 18:55:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Forever Infiniti
Mealtrom wrote:
Forever Infiniti wrote:
I can get 2.7k/lp+ In Empire running 4's for a certain corp


Does this corp happened to be named "Federal Defense Union"? Because I don't count that as empire. :Pirate


No it's a actual NPC corp with a actual L4 agents. If I told you it my conversion rates would drop like a rock Blink

EDIT: and the agent is in high-sec, rarely ever get a low-sec mish

If I stare at the door long enough, maybe, just maybe, it'll open
Firebolt145
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#12 - 2011-09-10 19:15:16 UTC
Confirming I'd get 2.5k+ isk/LP if my LP dealer wasn't treating me like how Nike treats China.
Inconsistent Revelations
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2011-09-10 19:26:28 UTC
I'm just asking if people have been finding it harder to get higher lp/isk conversions since the Lvl 4 buff in Incarna

I can still reliably get 1k isk/lp, but anything higher than that seem to have escaped my attention.
Firebolt145
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#14 - 2011-09-10 19:36:58 UTC
They exist.

Better get looking for them!
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#15 - 2011-09-10 19:42:52 UTC
Inconsistent Revelations wrote:
I'm just asking if people have been finding it harder to get higher lp/isk conversions since the Lvl 4 buff in Incarna

I can still reliably get 1k isk/lp, but anything higher than that seem to have escaped my attention.


As many and myself have already answered, LP just ain't what it used to be. If you want to maximize it again, do research like the others (I don't bother as I get pretty good isk from exploring also, so LP is not my only concern).

"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes it makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears
Mealtrom
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-09-10 19:58:51 UTC
Yea the good LP spots are "open secrets" that various groups of mission runners have for their respective turf. We don't like to share for obvious reasons, but its not hard to find with even some basic work (mine should be pretty obvious). Do the research and you'll reap the rewards, simple as that. The rest is just boning up your skills so you don't have to rely on LP dealers who, as previously mentioned, have one hand in your wallet and the other firmly on your balls.
Kesshisan
#17 - 2011-09-10 20:18:28 UTC
Mealtrom wrote:
Yea the good LP spots are "open secrets" that various groups of mission runners have for their respective turf.


Pretty much this. I found an item I can sell for over 4k isk/LP in an otherwise crappy LP store. It helps that I also have a trade alt that does a lot of trading so my experience there carries over to being able to find high isk/LP ratio items.
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#18 - 2011-09-11 02:15:09 UTC
LP values have been dropping for a while across all empire factions. I'm not sure as to the root cause but pretty much everyone has noticed. There are still plenty of ways to get more than 1k isk/LP but it's getting harder and harder as those secrets spread. I'd say it was people farming FW LP but that doesn't seem to be the case. The prices of navy ships (specifically the tier 1 BS's) have completely collapsed suggesting massive FW LP farming. But I'm just not seeing anyone actually farm the missions. The number of people running them has dramatically decreased the past year on the amarr/minmatar front. So I'm at a loss for a cause.

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
Kesshisan
#19 - 2011-09-11 05:16:36 UTC
King Rothgar wrote:
So I'm at a loss for a cause.


If I was to hazard a guess, I'd guess that more people had more free time during the summer than during the non-summer time due to the large number of people playing the game who go to school. This is a shot in the dark and I have no data to back this up claim, only intuition.
Flakey Foont
#20 - 2011-09-11 05:17:39 UTC
Economies change.
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