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Do we want the new graphics upgrade?

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Aineko Macx
#61 - 2012-03-24 20:38:39 UTC
Well...

I want to say DO IT, however, seeing how often the art department is mentioned as being the bottleneck for making important changes like the POS revamp, I can't.

DirectX11+ graphics will happen at one time or another, I just hope they aren't done to the detriment of more important stuff. Also, tesselation specifically only offers a benefit when looking at ships from very close, which for the most time playing eve is completely irrelevant/unrealistic.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#62 - 2012-03-24 20:39:55 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
CCP Peirz wrote:
Unfortunately the answer is "not at all". Tessellation is a DX11 only thing, and that's that -- the hardware just isn't there on a DX10 chip. Within that class of hardware though, tessellation can be cranked up or scaled back as the realtime demo showed.


So the decision is binary? Either CCP goes forward with tessellation, and people have to upgrade/quit, or they stick with the current system?

it will be a binary checkbox in the options menu. Tesselation is just a graphical add on trivial to disable.

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Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-03-24 20:41:41 UTC
I'm all for it. It's as good of a reason as any to upgrade my desktop Big smile

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Tank Quasar
#64 - 2012-03-24 20:42:40 UTC
I for one wish that Eve could take full usage of my Nvidia card with DX11.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#65 - 2012-03-24 20:42:55 UTC
CCP Peirz wrote:


DirectX11 requires Windows Vista or better -- no Windows XP.. The DirectX9 client is not going anywhere anytime soon!


\o/ thnx for the more detailed clairification ':) was sweating that I my XP computer was going to ruin my Eve experience soo now I know I can play Eve for the forseeable future Big smileBig smileBig smile
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Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#66 - 2012-03-24 20:43:07 UTC
Hells yes do it!
deathpain
Umbrella. Corporation
#67 - 2012-03-24 20:43:52 UTC
I loved it alot so yeah +1
Kai Tel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-03-24 20:46:19 UTC
Well, they are simply prepping the client to take advantage of some of the latest upcoming console API features so it makes sense that some options would be tacked on for the PC along the way. I'm not sure if I will upgrade my PC or wait for the PS3 version.
Caltharian
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2012-03-24 20:47:07 UTC
I am all for upgrading eve to DX11

altho i do agree that a classic/premium client as before may be a good idea for those few that havent bought a new graphics card in the last few years
Jim Luc
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#70 - 2012-03-24 20:47:36 UTC
Tessellation could really help improve many things actually, not just make asteroids more bumpy. Especially larger objects like huge stations that up close don't look very good.

Also, it could add more realism by thousands of civilian vessels going about their daily lives around a busy space station. Lots of cool things.
Taria A'nor
Department of Social Security
#71 - 2012-03-24 20:49:26 UTC
Would love a link to the footage if anyone has it :(
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#72 - 2012-03-24 20:50:55 UTC
CCP Peirz wrote:
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I hope CCP understands that more computer-users are drifting towards mobile devices like laptops, netbooks and tablets. The high-end, graphics-friendly desktop is going the way of the dodo.


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Baneken wrote:
The graphics shown were absolutely gorgeous but how will those scale for all those poor SOB's who don't have a DX 11 card ?


Unfortunately the answer is "not at all". Tessellation is a DX11 only thing, and that's that -- the hardware just isn't there on a DX10 chip. Within that class of hardware though, tessellation can be cranked up or scaled back as the realtime demo showed.


DarthNefarius wrote:
-1 if it means my PC won't be able to run Eve anymore. What will all the new system requirements be to do all of this? If Eve will still be backwards compatable with DirectX 9.C for another year then I'm +1


DirectX11 requires Windows Vista or better -- no Windows XP.. The DirectX9 client is not going anywhere anytime soon!


any chance of a link to the vid for the folks that may have missed it?
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#73 - 2012-03-24 20:52:29 UTC
Yes ... looked awesome

Nothing clever at this time.
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#74 - 2012-03-24 20:54:17 UTC
Want! +1
Adonei
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2012-03-24 20:54:52 UTC
it would be imazing!
Dr Prometheus
Gears of Construction
Gears Confederation
#76 - 2012-03-24 20:56:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Dr Prometheus
i dont have a link to the presentation, but i do have a link to an example how it works/looks; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkKtY2G3FbU&feature=player_embedded#!

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Vokanic
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2012-03-24 21:09:33 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
CCP Peirz wrote:
Unfortunately the answer is "not at all". Tessellation is a DX11 only thing, and that's that -- the hardware just isn't there on a DX10 chip. Within that class of hardware though, tessellation can be cranked up or scaled back as the realtime demo showed.


So the decision is binary? Either CCP goes forward with tessellation, and people have to upgrade/quit, or they stick with the current system?

Just wondering if there is a "Classic" and "Premium" path that can be followed (short term) such as back in 2008.



It's a tickbox. It's an optional eye candy feature, just like AA is. Did you notice how they turned the tesselation on and off? did you? apparently not. Congrats on being an imbecile.

5 manyears is worth it for this feature, but only if it releases with the belt mining etc.
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#78 - 2012-03-24 21:17:31 UTC
Graphics upgrade? Man what the hell did I miss? lol Yea, sure, absolutely! Although, the game looks really nice right now. I'm having a hard time imagining how much better it could get.
Severian Carnifex
#79 - 2012-03-24 21:23:12 UTC
YES YES YEEEEEEEEEEES!!!! :)
One graphic team for one year for this???
PLEASE DO IT!!! :)))


And to others that are asking about older PCs.
You saw how easy is to turn it off.
So, lets us with DX11 cards to have GREAT GRAPHIC and you can stay on this whats is here.

AND...
PPL, YOU SAW THAT THERE IS NO BUMP BUBBLES???
NO MORE BUMPING FROM BUBBLE AROUND ITEMS THAT IS NOT REALLY THERE!!! :D
Zircon Dasher
#80 - 2012-03-24 21:23:50 UTC
Vokanic wrote:

It's a tickbox. It's an optional eye candy feature, just like AA is. Did you notice how they turned the tesselation on and off? did you? apparently not. Congrats on being an imbecile.


Oh yeah. I forgot that marketing presentations never create false impressions.
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