EVE General Discussion

LOLOLOLOL SOOOOO TRUE.

Not sure. If they where going to do it they should of done it when DX11 first came out. Now that DX11 is comming to the end of it's lifespan by the time they release it, it may be a little late. Perhaps CCP should start looking further into the future and prepare for what comes after DX11. But it is time to cast asside DX9 if it becomes a millstone around the necks of the graphic programmers.

Caps look like that because capitals have not been V3:d. I hope they'll do them by the end of 2012 (we already know they are not coming in Inferno - they are doing Amarr and Minmatar subcaps first. Understandable and expected).

As for general texture res beyond what is used now in V3:d ships, that pretty much boils down to crap hardware people are commonly using. High resolution textures eat up memory and (more importantly) memory bandwidth like nuts and it is one factor in GPU tech that is commonly blurred away from 'normal peons' - AMD and NVIDIA will happily sell you $50-$100 "DirectX 11 gaming cards" which support all the latest features and may even have 1GB or 2GB (lol) onboard memory but those cards come with super-slow memory chips connected using a very narrow memory subsystem - so while the (slow) chip can do all the latest tricks, it does them veeeeeery slowly and will immediately keel over and die if you actually try to do stuff with very high resolution textures and/or resolutions.

It is the age old problem of exponents. When you go from 1024x1024 textures to 4096x4096 the first reaction for most is "oh, from 1 to 4... it's just four times as much". Reason is that people are bad at math and especially bad with exponents. It isn't four times as many pixels. It is 16 times as many pixels. A card that can push around 3D with 1024x1024 textures at 1280x720 resolution with reasonable framerate will absolutely keel over and die to sub-5fps when you try the same with 4096x4096 textures running at 1920x1080 (or 1920x1200). Cards that can actually do those high resolution textures at high screen resolution cost $400+ for a reason - they have super fast GDDR5 memory, 256/384 or even sometimes 512bit memory bus and sport a bunch of copper bolted on to act as heatsinks to keep all that down to a sane operating temperature.

Same issue also condemns laptops to be eternally "fail" for high end gaming - you simply cannot use high spec memory and wide memory bus when the thing has to fit into a tiny laptop motherboard and work with very tiny heatsink and fan. So you cut down the chip frequency and skimp on the memory performance...

Would be lovely to see EVE with super high textures made for high end 1GB+ cards with tons of bandwidth but the problem is, only a small percentage of players could turn the textures that high and the rest would get an impression "EVE sucks because it runs poorly with the max settings on my system". People are broken and these days devs are very conservative with their graphics settings - anything too high end tends to be cut because it may brand the game as "badly optimized" when 43728923479 internet idiots scream how their $150 super gaming card can't play the game properly (at max settings) (lol).

Do it!!


and saw some people talking about upgrades on cards etc. im currently buying a new card and throwing away my old one that i bought 2 years ago, even that old one has DX11, so next time someone says something about not having dx11 card i will just say the same as Roy in IT Crowd "Are you from the past?!"

Yes, DO IT!

Against
Wait till the POS fix is made wait one year.

Against
only 50% of the eve players can run it currently, and that is at minimum levels
when 80% can run it a minumum level then yes... It is just too early to go a head

Against
Many people are Multi Boxing, Many people in large fights have their graphix set to minimum.
Eve is not a new game and many people are playing on older machines. CCP has to take that into account.

So you want them to wait to do a graphics upgrade until AFTER they introduce more stuff for them to have to upgrade? Where are you pulling these 50% and 80% numbers from? They smell funny...

Multiboxing is running multiple boxes with a client running on each one. Running multiple clients on one box is something else and not CCP's problem if you can't handle the graphics to do multiple clients. They only need to worry about you running one client.

If people are playing on older machines then it is time for them to upgrade. This is how it works...you want to keep up and keep playing? Upgrade.

I swear...this happens every time CCP does anything to improve the game graphically. The people running machines from the stone age start crying about how they have to spend money on new parts to keep playing.

5 man years. one team for 1 year.
5 member team. Maths.

Meh, I am somewhere between neutral and against.

Personally I would still be in favor of a alternate low powered graphics mode like icons or even wireframe. Maybe I am odd but I spend most of my time zoomed out to where most things are just icons anyway, so it would be nice to have a simple, clean UI based off that instead of something glitzy that I will immediately shut off anyway.

Please, please, please, please, please YES!
Give it to us please CCP!