EVE General Discussion

A long long time ago (note the music playing in your head) I was with Praetorian Industry (we never build anything) and beside being a quasi-subdevision of MASS, we did some merc work and had no problem with an informal agreement. After all we showed our customer that we are able and willing to destroy ships in space and it might be a risky move to not pay us.

What we had a problem with was providing evidence of kills. Making confirmed kills visible to contractees or even the general public could help to spot kill forgery. It's a bit silly to have to open the ingame browser to see ingame kills in a OOG killboard anyways.

So the G0p-St0p CEO would cause The Chain Reaction of Exponatioal Wardecs by the press of a single button? Trust me, it's much more fun when the G0p-St0p CEO does not know what he just started. Informal agreements are fun because they create uncertainty and drama. We need more player interaction, not less.

…except of course that you didn't explicitly quote that post, and except that you are still saying something that was never said by the person you were referring to when you said it (and no matter what, you said it — no attribution or quotation was used). The latter is a strawman, no matter how much you try to wiggle out of it; the former is you moving the goal posts — another fun fallacy.

Because there were exploits with the old systems that were better built out than policed out. The problem here is that you're making absolute statements (which, as the saying goes, are absolutely false): you're painting a picture of “no motivation” from “some lacked motivation”. The motivations were always there; those motivations are still there; and now they add a few more.

EVE last as long as the game lasts, just like GTA3 and it teaches you how to play the game, just like GTA3 does. So, again: why is it not horrid that GTA3 teaches you to run over old ladies for cash? And no, people do not generally suffer from the borderline personality disorders required to have game and real life get mashed up the way you're suggesting. You're not using yourself as a point of reference here, I hope?

The way I understood it, that war information — including the continuous accumulation of kills and losses — would be available pretty much directly from the corp info screen, so you'd have exactly what you're asking for. That's why this guy at the roundtable suggested that they leveraged that internal data connection to pretty much bill the contractee on the fly based on some percentage of destroyed value (determined by the contract, with some max expenses to limit how much you get sucked dry and with the ability to renegotiate that limit).

Kings of carebears don't join Dark Rising as early as they can't even still fly a T1 fit Rifter nor stick in Dark Rising from when they were based in a Gallente Hi sec system to when they moved to OMS to when they moved to Esesier to when they moved to Taff and then to 0.0.

Sure I always loved industry to the point you can recall or ask the chief industry guy how I pushed several times to let my industry alts in and - how peculiar - I spent ALL my ISK to buy my first capital BPO exactly to make stuff for Dark Rising (for free).

Sadly - and I sent the evemail to everyone about it (if I recall correctly) - one day my RL life stopped letting me play enough to be of any worth in DR and *with huge pain as the DR guys were a cool bunch* I had to leave and forever be doomed to be "casual".

When I get the DR emails about returning back to the corp I always return back to the old times and if one day I manage to be free again I'll definitely ask to return there regardless in which hi / low / 0.0 sec system they'll be at that time.

Anyway if you think all of this = king of carebears, be my guest, I'd like to see how many kings of carebears do all of this.

Thank you. Show me the benefit of joining a high sec corp or alliance where you are constantly in danger of getting jumped because of high sec griefing war deccs? If you are an industrial player then there would be no benefit to joining a high sec corp or alliance unless it was a mega.

I have a question:

If someone formed a corp of say 100 or so alt accounts, would they be able to make a viable occupation of just offering members to corps getting dec'ed to drive up the costs of the aggressor?

Seems like this could be a big problem.

This is good stuff, force the high sec corps to actually group in alliances and maybe one day their head will actually switch on and think "hey, we got a decent amout of ppl and pvpers to actually try out lowsec/nullsec "...

This went so well.