EVE General Discussion

Well, it is kind of unwise to set 25-day jobs then, don't you think? Do it a few levels at a time, one for the really high-end prints. Some print types should probably have their timers lowered a bit, that I would have no problem agreeing with. This is still a risk/reward situation, however. You can choose to take a bigger risk and set a longer job, and reap a greater reward in the form of having to devote less time to lab management. Or you might not.

PS: yes I called them "griefers," but I put the word in quotation marks. "Carebears" aren't really carebears either; we simply need to utilize labels for the sake of simplicity in our conversations.

No capital ship BPO goes below 27 days even with implants. This is for *1* research level (usually takes much more for 1 PE level) or for *1* copy job.

I am all it to get fractional research up, but till that date it's 27 days or die.


Edit: a solution would be to enforce capital research in low sec. It'd force people to mass go low sec and thus finally there would be a "motivator" to aggregate players.
"Force" would go against the freedom of a sandbox though. Exactly like forcing them into fake massive hi sec alliances to avoid decs.

Btw, Punkturis, could you explain (or ask someone else on the team to explain) the whole “can only have one surrender negotiation in progress” part in more detail?

My first throught when I heard this was that it could easily be used to block other people's ability to surrender a war by tying up the aggressors with continuous negotiations that never really end.

Cost of doing business, have you ever tried to sell a product adding in such "costs"? Because nobody will give a damn if you had 3B of damage, your BP will sell for 2.5M exactly like everybody else's or it just won't sell.

But hey, don't worry we'll have some more lessons to explain that too. In the mean time I'll keep my safe niche in low sec and enjoy another super hyped Fanfest feature going well short of its planned success.




Capital BPOs cycles can't be shortened, work in parallel would only save an average of 1 BPO reserarch over the total slots.

Figuring out is easy: this puts capital research / copy services in the exclusive hands of huge corps who can have a PvP organization able to defend their multiple POSes around, 24/7. The smaller BPOs yield like 30% of a capital BPO (save special speculation events and similar) and make a POS unprofitable.

So not only they won't get new players to set up "POS lite" but also the old owners are stuck with unprofitable asset and with tens of billions worth of now pointless BPOs, whose market will crash.





The point of having everything stacked against someone unable to fight back? Hey even the non Einsteins in RL got it that not everybody is a Chuck Norris and thus Police and similar have born to protect the weak and the handicapped.
I suppose "EvE is real" is just real till it's convenient, right?




Never had to deal with mafia?

Once somebody spotted the scam? I mean, they can racket at will and if somebody "spots the scam" they can just actually kill what that guy got.

I.e. racket 500 small corps for risk free money and the one that rebels gets quickly nuked to extinction so more 500 small corps will pay risk free money.

Yes. If you can't pay the costs, don't do the business (unless you're the philanthropic kind). It's no different than "if you want the POS, you get the wardec"

…so, like I said, work in parallel with offsets.

Nice strawman. No. The whole point of having both POSes and wardecs is that you can disrupt and destroy them, setting people back by months (and billions).

…or get killed in the process and break off, once the target realises that pouring mony into these particular corps won't solve his problem.

No. Just one. Just like everyone else.

The drawbacks are spending days organizing a siege, securing attendees, and then spending tens, if not hundreds of man-hours on a siege. On top of that, alarm-clocking the strontium timer is necessary, since otherwise all of that effort gets wasted.

Killing a proper POS isn't a one-button ordeal.

Hey Vaerah I have a question for you: if you're doing so damn well with your "safe niche in low sec," then why are you complaining about high-sec POSes? I mean if it's so safe, and so profitable, then others can just go out and do the same thing, right? Then all the scumbags will just sit around twiddling their thumbs.

Well, since the 2 biggest posters seem mostly interested in how wardecs affect POSs, I might as well join that discussion. I think wardecs are an important tool as they enable combat. What we are looking for imo is 'meaningfull' combat. At present meaningfull combat is most likely to occur if there is a wardec over a POS or CO. Other wardecs generally just result in griefing and people sitting in stations.
I think the wardec meganism would improve if it was just a POS-removal tool. You wardec a corp and once the pos is removed the war ends. That would also mean that you cannot get a wardec if you don't own a POS.
Alternatively wardecs can be removed from the game altogether. Just allow people to shoot at POSs and COs and if people want to defend, fights can escalate. No wars, just fights.

One of the issues why there is so little fighting over POSs is that free moons to anchor a POS are just not scarce enough (except near trade hubs). Perhaps it would be a good idea to remove all posses from 0.7 space, so POS space would be scarce enough to fight over.

The creation of all these small corporations so people can manage their own POS is the result of inadequate granularity in corp role management. I think CCP should fix that problem rather than let it affect how they design the new wardec system.

This is a good idea, basically will increase NPC corp tax isk sink efficiency a little. Since all the war evaders will join NPC corps now...

Too bad it won't add any more targets (realistic ones I mean) for the empire deccerrs. But such is a life. You can't get something that does not exist in the first place (carebear pvpers that is). However, you can force out of existance that which does exists (carebear subscribers and their $$$ paid for accs), and that will be achieved easily. Good luck with that flawless business plan, CCP!

If only people had the good habit of reading through the last few pages (at least) of a forum thread before posting bull feces themselves.
BTW, funny how the forums censor feces (latin for ****) but it doesn't do the same with bullshit

This idea is superior!