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Logoffski exploit, video proof.

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Othran
Route One
#61 - 2012-03-24 16:04:30 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:

If Yes I unsub my accounts. Cause thats utter crap.


Put the toys back in the pram Straight

I can instantly think of at least half a dozen ways of screwing over logged out people by extending aggression, and I'm not remotely creative on these matters.

So you lost a freighter kill. Now you know what you have to do to kill it. You've learned.

It IS working as intended and no ranting from you will change that.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2012-03-24 16:06:02 UTC
Citrute wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:

If Yes I unsub my accounts.


Your stuff, may i have it please?



Goes with me. Ill help bring down some inflation.


Awaiting CCP DEV to comment on my video proof of cheap loggoffskie tricks freighter pilots have been abusing.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **

dethleffs
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2012-03-24 16:17:17 UTC
You keep calling it "proof". It doesn't prove anyrhing, it's just a showcase of working as intended.
Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-03-24 16:20:37 UTC
Should have aggressed it on the other side.

Unlucky bro.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2012-03-24 16:23:51 UTC
Dez Affinity wrote:
Should have aggressed it on the other side.

Unlucky bro.


Agress it in high sec?

Ok broski.

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Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#66 - 2012-03-24 16:32:50 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Dez Affinity wrote:
Should have aggressed it on the other side.

Unlucky bro.


Agress it in high sec?

Ok broski.


Yep.
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2012-03-24 17:23:43 UTC
Citrute wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:

If Yes I unsub my accounts.


Your stuff, may i have it please?

It wouldn't be worth much, as you can see he can't even kill a freighter in a low sec gate camp.
Sentinel Eeex
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-03-24 18:08:45 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Citrute wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:

If Yes I unsub my accounts.


Your stuff, may i have it please?



Goes with me. Ill help bring down some inflation.


Awaiting CCP DEV to comment on my video proof of cheap loggoffskie tricks freighter pilots have been abusing.


You will be waiting for a long time.
Prince Kobol
#69 - 2012-03-24 18:13:25 UTC
Sentinel Eeex wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
Citrute wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:

If Yes I unsub my accounts.


Your stuff, may i have it please?



Goes with me. Ill help bring down some inflation.


Awaiting CCP DEV to comment on my video proof of cheap loggoffskie tricks freighter pilots have been abusing.


You will be waiting for a long time.


Unless they come along to have a laugh Big smile
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#70 - 2012-03-24 18:24:07 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Citrute wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:

If Yes I unsub my accounts.


Your stuff, may i have it please?



Goes with me. Ill help bring down some inflation.


Awaiting CCP DEV to comment on my video proof of cheap loggoffskie tricks freighter pilots have been abusing.




I love how you conflate 'abusing' with 'normal, proper and intended use of something'.


If a Dev says anything to you, I sincerely hope it's "**** off you big timewaster, put your toys back in the pram and HTFU".
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#71 - 2012-03-24 18:26:10 UTC  |  Edited by: AkJon Ferguson
If you scrubs had all overheated your guns, he'd be dead. Stop crying.
Othran
Route One
#72 - 2012-03-24 18:32:37 UTC
Dez Affinity wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
Dez Affinity wrote:
Should have aggressed it on the other side.

Unlucky bro.


Agress it in high sec?

Ok broski.


Yep.


You're wasting your time.

Game mechanics are things that apply to other people, rather than to RougeOperator Roll
McFly
Peanut Factory
#73 - 2012-03-24 19:06:43 UTC  |  Edited by: McFly
you are really a sad lot. yes this mechanic is annoying, but not invulnerability,

1.) addressbook watchlist the pilot
2.) sit a cloaked high scan res ship on gate (black ops work great since no decloak recalibration)
3.) wait
4.) when he logs in, wait for him to come out of e-warp and land on grid
5.) decloak + point
6.) call in cavalry

He's in a freighter 10-14km from the gate with a 20-40 sec alignment time based on his skills. If your allies are logging out and calling it a night, fit webs, you will kill him solo if you are patient. If you can't wait for him, leave an alt/ally to take up the vigil. He will log in eventually and if you are vigilant you will get him.

Your biggest advantage is you know exactly where he will be when he comes out of E-Warp. Many freighters have died thinking the coast is clear and trying to log back in a day or two later or at downtime.

I mean come on he's got like 10% structure left.
Sidrun
Life sucks then you die Ltd.
#74 - 2012-03-24 19:12:34 UTC


Logged off players cannot (legitimately) gain aggression under any circumstances. This is working as intended.[/quote wrote:


No CCP needs to state if the specific instance on the gate and Logging out before you decloaked is AS INTENDED.

If Yes I unsub my accounts. Cause thats utter crap.



Your tears sustain me...
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2012-03-25 02:10:14 UTC


So CCP do you encourage a trick that lets people avoid the risk side of risk reward.

That encourages logging off just after a jump to get out of trouble with no risk?

Its clear the way you FIXED timers is rubbish.

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Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#76 - 2012-03-25 02:12:18 UTC
Working as intended

Also

Working really stupidly

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#77 - 2012-03-25 02:14:10 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Logging_out

"Please note that if a player logs out of the game without an aggression timer/PvP logout timer and is shot at or aggressed in other ways before his ship disappears from space, he will not be given an aggression timer (unless the player logs in again within 15 minutes), which in turn leads to his ship disappearing exactly one minute after the time which he logged out of the game. The ship will still take damage as normal however, so if you are packing enough firepower to destroy the ship before the one minute timer is over, it will be destroyed. "

So yeah, working as intended, I guess. I suggest bringing more lazorz



QFT

Stop bitching and man up, you just sucked. Shït happens.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#78 - 2012-03-25 02:25:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Soldarius
Gorki Andropov wrote:
My tear cup is 1% full ... are you the 99%, OP?


I can categorically deny that OP is The 99 Percent. But I am.

The short of it is that jump freightor logged before he had aggression. Thus he has a 60 second timer. While I agree its kinda lame, I also agree that you could have brought more dps. 30% structure? That's pretty close.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#79 - 2012-03-25 02:32:56 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Logging_out

"Please note that if a player logs out of the game without an aggression timer/PvP logout timer and is shot at or aggressed in other ways before his ship disappears from space, he will not be given an aggression timer (unless the player logs in again within 15 minutes), which in turn leads to his ship disappearing exactly one minute after the time which he logged out of the game. The ship will still take damage as normal however, so if you are packing enough firepower to destroy the ship before the one minute timer is over, it will be destroyed. "

So yeah, working as intended, I guess. I suggest bringing more lazorz



QFT

Stop bitching and man up, you just sucked. Shït happens.



I should not have to have ENOUGH firepower to kill things in less the a minute.

It literally fly's in the face of what this game is about. Even more disturbing is the trolls trying to defend it. Worse is they dont try to make sound points on why its justified that it works this way. They only troll.

Defend Logoffski.

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Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#80 - 2012-03-25 02:36:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
RougeOperator wrote:

I should not have to have ENOUGH firepower to kill things in less the a minute.

Agreed. I caught a guy's ship and he logged out. I killed the ship. I scanned his pod and pointed it with my cheetah. He logged back in and his pod E-Warped back down to his previous location before my DPS alt could warp in and kill it, completely ignoring my cheetah's point.

This was all in lowsec, so i still took security hit and didnt get my kill. Also, bubbles would not have prevented the EWarps ether... Not quite the same situation, but equally stupid.

Ships/pods simply should never disappear if they're pointed. Anything else is pretty silly, immersion-breaking, as well as denying people their earned kills.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP