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What counters 1000 alpha maelstroms?
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Mentat Cthulhu
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-03-24 07:01:11 UTC
Obviously aside hacking comm servers to inhibit they enemy from organizing their defenses and have mod powers what kind of strategics and reacharounds can you use vs some such 1000 maelstroms either under cyno jammer or not under such cynos jammer??
Uriel Chinmay
Perkone
#2 - 2012-03-24 07:02:41 UTC
I'm thinking 3,455,743 rifters.
Abyss Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-03-24 07:49:08 UTC
A larger number of ships. Honestly there is no current counter to alpha ships, which is why I like the proposed idea of concentrated fire diminishing returns. No idea if it'll make it in for inferno, but perhaps shortly after it. Would be nice to see a fleet fight with more than one target being fired on. (Or a few, in the case of giga-alpha fleets that can alpha multiple capitals at a time.)
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
#4 - 2012-03-24 09:00:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Lock out
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say ... 1001 maelstroms ?


Yuu can prolly theorycraft about higher ROF on non arti ships in sufficeint numbers to still alpha a BS, but you're still talking bout hundreds. 500 pulse apocs maybe ?
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#5 - 2012-03-24 10:47:47 UTC
Electronic warfare.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#6 - 2012-03-24 10:52:27 UTC
moar alpha maelstroms Shocked

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lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#7 - 2012-03-24 11:11:14 UTC
100x the Aeon and throw in some titans also

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Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#8 - 2012-03-24 13:49:19 UTC
1001 alpha maelstroms or 1 titan, pick
Elsa Nietchize
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-03-24 14:46:10 UTC
The old DD was pretty effective against these
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-03-24 16:24:35 UTC
12-18 stealth bombers.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-03-24 17:14:35 UTC
Mfume Apocal wrote:
12-18 stealth bombers.


This does reqiure your main's alliance to not be completely incompetent with bombers though.

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Sphit Ker
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-03-25 09:32:04 UTC
Maybe sticking my neck out with this but whatever ::deal with it:: etc. I don't believe it's a secret at all anyway.

You just need to take them real close. Have a copious amount of bubblers on hands. Have an effective prober that is quick at it's job. Alpha Maelstroms are at their best around the 50..75km slice. That's where they want to be. Closer than that and tracking can turn very problematic. 1000 Alphas is well enough to nuke triaged carriers in ONE volley so there is no tanking that, really. Against that many alpha steeds, no amount of reps will save your boats. You'll get to see a lot of yellow boxes on overview then BAM it's too late you're dead so expect to lose boats at steady rate.

You can win with skirmish tactics. Alphas are slow to turn around... Probe them, warp in, bubble up and collect your killmails. A flock of bombers can mop the floor really quick.

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Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-03-25 12:42:12 UTC
Abaddons/supers/bombers/a brain
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-03-25 19:03:46 UTC
1001 arty maelstroms?

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uredo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-03-25 19:17:35 UTC
I always thought that a Remote Resistance Booster module would work pretty well if it existed.

Bit like remote reps, but would let you boost another ship's shield or armor resists .

So as soon as someone was being targetted you would get the logi to remote boost their resists, effectively giving them massive EHP.

Passive targetting would be a problem though I guess....
Abbadon21
Ignotis Imperium
Usurper.
#16 - 2012-03-26 01:40:24 UTC
Quote:
What counters 1000 alpha maelstroms?


Answer: Massive Lag

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Bricksauce
The Soul Society
Fraternity.
#17 - 2012-03-26 09:05:44 UTC
transversal

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JasonXXL
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-03-26 09:46:32 UTC  |  Edited by: JasonXXL
Since Maelstroms usually don't have sebos they have a limited lockrange. If you can get them bubbled TidiCats could do the job I guess.
Also, Lockout made a good point: there is a point that you have enough alpha anyway, so if you can get a good number of high rof ships you can murder them at a rather high rate, hopefully higher than they can kill you (think Panicgeddons).
Cheapest would probably be to bomb them.
esc shk
Okay Sax
#19 - 2012-03-26 10:23:33 UTC
Not be bad?

Also we never have 1000 man Maelstrom fleet anymore you ******* ******** pubbie. Once you get past the 250 (incl Support which is 6 Comand Ships + Anti Support + Dictors) You don't get much benefit out of more Alpha.

It would also help if your FC's weren't ******** and you posted with your main. But no. NPC Alt Away and complain about the much needed titan nerf.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-03-26 10:26:41 UTC
100 smartbombing hyps ect and a good warp in

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