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CCP- REMOVE MINING AS A PROFESSION
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Shang Tsungin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#81 - 2012-03-23 21:52:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Shang Tsungin
Selinate wrote:
FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.

Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!

As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.

/thread


Removing mining itself wouldn't actually help my friend. However I do find it boring too and not as profitable as you would expect it to be after all that skilling for it solo wise. It sure does require you some eve time, hell at times I'd even claim it takes an entire work shift on your own for days in a row if you wanna get some isk outta it by yourself.

As I'm not very creative when it comes to this game it's design, I wouldn't really know what to do or add to make mining just that more interesting as a soloist. It has it's charms when you're out there together with a big mining fleet and all working towards the same objective, to me it simply adds another sense of teamwork right there. That is if you're working towards the same goals and the pilots you're running it with are for the team.
Selinate
#82 - 2012-03-23 22:26:28 UTC
Kazini Jax wrote:

Awww, you have no girlfriend.. or boyfriend, in this case. Too bad, so sad. And still no point. Man, it must really suck to be you with no life but forum trolling and TV. Mommy won't let you go out and play? Maybe in another 5 years, when you hit 40, she will letcha.


Lol

You're still so mad about this. It's so cute. It's like a 14 year old kid who thinks he just won the argument when his argument was invalid in the first place.
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2012-03-23 22:44:35 UTC
Nimbus Cloud Liebrum wrote:
i love mining

I love you

Something clever
Kazini Jax
Starlight Operations
#84 - 2012-03-23 23:07:56 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Kazini Jax wrote:

Awww, you have no girlfriend.. or boyfriend, in this case. Too bad, so sad. And still no point. Man, it must really suck to be you with no life but forum trolling and TV. Mommy won't let you go out and play? Maybe in another 5 years, when you hit 40, she will letcha.


Lol

You're still so mad about this. It's so cute. It's like a 14 year old kid who thinks he just won the argument when his argument was invalid in the first place.




You have a real hard time with reality. Just because you are pathetic, and I state how and why you are pathetic, does not make me 'mad'. It just makes you a pathetic human being. Nothing else. You just want to pretend I am mad so you can feel some kind of success, but, you really haven't been successful at anything except proving what an idiot you are. I have zero problem with continuing to point that out.. especially if you are going to help me with every comment you make. Thank you!

Please. Keep going! Idiots need to be pointed out and publicly humiliated and you are helping me point out the fool you are with every word you type.

Again.. thank you!
Selinate
#85 - 2012-03-23 23:33:54 UTC
Kazini Jax wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Kazini Jax wrote:

Awww, you have no girlfriend.. or boyfriend, in this case. Too bad, so sad. And still no point. Man, it must really suck to be you with no life but forum trolling and TV. Mommy won't let you go out and play? Maybe in another 5 years, when you hit 40, she will letcha.


Lol

You're still so mad about this. It's so cute. It's like a 14 year old kid who thinks he just won the argument when his argument was invalid in the first place.




You have a real hard time with reality. Just because you are pathetic, and I state how and why you are pathetic, does not make me 'mad'. It just makes you a pathetic human being. Nothing else. You just want to pretend I am mad so you can feel some kind of success, but, you really haven't been successful at anything except proving what an idiot you are. I have zero problem with continuing to point that out.. especially if you are going to help me with every comment you make. Thank you!

Please. Keep going! Idiots need to be pointed out and publicly humiliated and you are helping me point out the fool you are with every word you type.

Again.. thank you!


This is the internet. Selinate is not my real name. There's nothing public about this Lol

You're mad because you're still posting mad-rage responses to me. Care to keep going? This is fun, I have to say.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#86 - 2012-03-23 23:43:45 UTC
I like mining. Not trolling at all even though people will think I am. Ask a corpie of mine, I actually enjoy sitting their, listening to some Terry Pratchett and multi box mining for a couple hours. I can't actually AFK or I will **** over my cycle times.

I don't do it as often as I use to cause Market pvp earns way way more money. However every now and then, undocking the mining fleet and kicking back to some of Terry is still a nice relaxing time in eve. Keeps me grounded after epic pvp fights knowing I paid for it by mining for abit.


Until I sell some units and like make triple but you get the idea. Also mining is becoming an actual profitable thing now. Can't wait for Drone poo removal and every drake pilot whines about the 60m Drake. Yay for mining.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Zag'mar Jurkar
Legion Du Lys
#87 - 2012-03-23 23:45:32 UTC
Thanks for the entertainment you provided, OP.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#88 - 2012-03-23 23:58:56 UTC
Oh dear, the trolling continues. Please, stop feeding the troll.

Adapt or Die
Kazini Jax
Starlight Operations
#89 - 2012-03-24 00:05:35 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Kazini Jax wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Kazini Jax wrote:

Awww, you have no girlfriend.. or boyfriend, in this case. Too bad, so sad. And still no point. Man, it must really suck to be you with no life but forum trolling and TV. Mommy won't let you go out and play? Maybe in another 5 years, when you hit 40, she will letcha.


Lol

You're still so mad about this. It's so cute. It's like a 14 year old kid who thinks he just won the argument when his argument was invalid in the first place.




You have a real hard time with reality. Just because you are pathetic, and I state how and why you are pathetic, does not make me 'mad'. It just makes you a pathetic human being. Nothing else. You just want to pretend I am mad so you can feel some kind of success, but, you really haven't been successful at anything except proving what an idiot you are. I have zero problem with continuing to point that out.. especially if you are going to help me with every comment you make. Thank you!

Please. Keep going! Idiots need to be pointed out and publicly humiliated and you are helping me point out the fool you are with every word you type.

Again.. thank you!


This is the internet. Selinate is not my real name. There's nothing public about this Lol

You're mad because you're still posting mad-rage responses to me. Care to keep going? This is fun, I have to say.




To the Eve PUBLIC you are known as Selinate. To the Eve PUBLIC you are making yourself look like a fool troll. Just because you choose to give 'public' a different interpretation than what I mean makes it no less true. But, my work day is done (that's something adults do.. you'll understand later, when you grow up) which means I got far, far more important things to do now, than play with you.

Thanks for letting me vent the stresses I am dealing with in RL on someone as insignificant as you for a day. It was.. useful. In more ways than you will ever know.

Good luck in life... you will need it.......
Selinate
#90 - 2012-03-24 00:09:14 UTC
Kazini Jax wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Kazini Jax wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Kazini Jax wrote:

Awww, you have no girlfriend.. or boyfriend, in this case. Too bad, so sad. And still no point. Man, it must really suck to be you with no life but forum trolling and TV. Mommy won't let you go out and play? Maybe in another 5 years, when you hit 40, she will letcha.


Lol

You're still so mad about this. It's so cute. It's like a 14 year old kid who thinks he just won the argument when his argument was invalid in the first place.




You have a real hard time with reality. Just because you are pathetic, and I state how and why you are pathetic, does not make me 'mad'. It just makes you a pathetic human being. Nothing else. You just want to pretend I am mad so you can feel some kind of success, but, you really haven't been successful at anything except proving what an idiot you are. I have zero problem with continuing to point that out.. especially if you are going to help me with every comment you make. Thank you!

Please. Keep going! Idiots need to be pointed out and publicly humiliated and you are helping me point out the fool you are with every word you type.

Again.. thank you!


This is the internet. Selinate is not my real name. There's nothing public about this Lol

You're mad because you're still posting mad-rage responses to me. Care to keep going? This is fun, I have to say.




To the Eve PUBLIC you are known as Selinate. To the Eve PUBLIC you are making yourself look like a fool troll. Just because you choose to give 'public' a different interpretation than what I mean makes it no less true. But, my work day is done (that's something adults do.. you'll understand later, when you grow up) which means I got far, far more important things to do now, than play with you.

Thanks for letting me vent the stresses I am dealing with in RL on someone as insignificant as you for a day. It was.. useful. In more ways than you will ever know.

Good luck in life... you will need it.......


I'm sure the button pushing job you do over at Initech while searching for your red stapler is OH so difficult and important.

Also, it's still not public. I can just buy another character and POOF, I am no longer Selinate.

Your rage is so comforting.
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#91 - 2012-03-24 00:43:36 UTC
Selissa Shadoe wrote:
OP, You're an idiot.

Next.

/thread.

Damn nature, you scary!
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#92 - 2012-03-24 00:48:12 UTC
Yep. The player base hates all miners, miners hate other miners, and miners hate how mining is done. Just end it already!
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#93 - 2012-03-24 00:56:32 UTC  |  Edited by: DelBoy Trades
After reading through this thread, the OP's answer to every counter opinion to their own is "Your point is invalid". You realize just stating that doesn't make it true?

Reprocessed mission loot contributes most of the minerals to eve...Are you high? If you just start seeding everything willy nilly, you're simply destroying the sandbox. If people want to mine, let them mine, why is it any concern of yours? Does them mining interfere with your game play in anyway? Do you realise how much your golem/CNR/shittymissionrunningship would cost if it wasn't for mining?

I don't like mission running, I don't like industry, I don't like hisec and I'm not a massive fan of wormholes, so we should just scrap them all, because that is my personal opinion and apparently that's all that matters on this multiplayer game.

Edit: I agree with basically everyone in this thread, that is, when they call you an idiot, because you really are.

Damn nature, you scary!
Diamonica Norya
Pro Synergy
#94 - 2012-03-24 01:22:53 UTC
hey OP, go play a sandbox that seeds everything on the market and player have only 2 things to do in the game, you go PVP or you blow up npc all day, not so much of a sandbox it seems to me.

Why did you not show your corp/alliance in your profile and ask ppl to post with their main? this is my main and I mine because npc corp don't charge tax for whatever I do with my rocks? unlike a good percentage of greedy player corp that wants to tax you and get you to donate certain portions of what you rightfully earn so they can pay their 0.0 rent.

you are mad because your mission loot gets nerfed and it doesn't melt to as much minerals as the miners? sour much? at least CCP reduced the volume metal scrapes occupy eh?

you just sound like "oooh, the miners are earning too much compared to me for the same efforts put in, I'm jelly!"

Besides, Chribba would probably be very sad if there are no more rocks in the empty space for him to ... devour...
Selinate
#95 - 2012-03-24 02:59:08 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
After reading through this thread, the OP's answer to every counter opinion to their own is "Your point is invalid". You realize just stating that doesn't make it true?

Reprocessed mission loot contributes most of the minerals to eve...Are you high? If you just start seeding everything willy nilly, you're simply destroying the sandbox. If people want to mine, let them mine, why is it any concern of yours? Does them mining interfere with your game play in anyway? Do you realise how much your golem/CNR/shittymissionrunningship would cost if it wasn't for mining?

I don't like mission running, I don't like industry, I don't like hisec and I'm not a massive fan of wormholes, so we should just scrap them all, because that is my personal opinion and apparently that's all that matters on this multiplayer game.

Edit: I agree with basically everyone in this thread, that is, when they call you an idiot, because you really are.


Your point is invalid because you have no reasoning.
Selinate
#96 - 2012-03-24 03:00:42 UTC
Diamonica Norya wrote:
hey OP, go play a sandbox that seeds everything on the market and player have only 2 things to do in the game, you go PVP or you blow up npc all day, not so much of a sandbox it seems to me.

Why did you not show your corp/alliance in your profile and ask ppl to post with their main? this is my main and I mine because npc corp don't charge tax for whatever I do with my rocks? unlike a good percentage of greedy player corp that wants to tax you and get you to donate certain portions of what you rightfully earn so they can pay their 0.0 rent.

you are mad because your mission loot gets nerfed and it doesn't melt to as much minerals as the miners? sour much? at least CCP reduced the volume metal scrapes occupy eh?

you just sound like "oooh, the miners are earning too much compared to me for the same efforts put in, I'm jelly!"

Besides, Chribba would probably be very sad if there are no more rocks in the empty space for him to ... devour...


I forgot how to change that setting long ago, not that I really care about it in the first place. You can look my character up if you want to, and see all that info.

If you want to go tax free, make your own corp like real players do. Play the sandbox like it was intended, HO!
Momoyo
Rivinshield Trading Inc.
#97 - 2012-03-24 03:43:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Momoyo
You would have to boost the amount of stuff you get from missions. Grinding missions you can build a few BC after a day of missions. I can build like 20 after a day of mining.

Also where would you get minerals in WH, sleepers don't really drop re processable loot.

In null generally mining is more profitable because of rorq but it would have to be moved to anomalies and most people wold bother salvaging cause of teh risk and it messes with isk/h. Basically there will be a lot less minerals on the market unless missions require an orca to haul all the **** out which would be even less fun than mining.
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
Doomheim
#98 - 2012-03-24 03:54:43 UTC
Nice trolling OP

You have really made a few people angry here

Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#99 - 2012-03-24 03:56:32 UTC
Selinate wrote:
FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.

Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!

As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.

/thread

I like to mine now and then. I never AFK mine.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#100 - 2012-03-24 04:04:37 UTC
I was going give 4/10, but seeing how we're up to 5+ pages with a few passionate responses, I now give you a 6.5/10 OP.