Market Discussions

This would be one of the rare cases where the transfer of a PLEX to another player is an ISK sink - because the ISK used in the transaction is flowing into CCP's hands. Once it lands in CCP's wallet, I don't see them going out and buying other things with the ISK, so the ISK does leave the economy forever.

In most cases, players that buy PLEX for real money will either sell them or use them, in that they are unlikely to bot. Botting players buy their PLEX off the market for ISK. Therefore the paying players DID receive their service. While it's possible a few retail PLEX buyers have been banned for other things they are likely to be a tiny minority.

I don't think those PLEX will ever be used by Dr E. they will stay on the banned accounts until it is deleted, if that ever happens.

They are going to use them to curb the fluctuations on the PLEX-market.

What kind of an impact would it be if CCP just suddenly decided to dump all 10,000? Would the dip be short or long term?



Edit: I'm unsure how responsible that would be of CCP though. I mean how many banned plex go into the pool annually? It can't be that many. I'm sure that 10,000 took a while to get up. However, they do want plex prices to be reasonable to keep players playing and maybe even attract new customers. And with new customers, comes more people who'd buy and sell plex and it'd be the fire they would have lit to begin some sort of stability.

A PLEX sitting on an acct has no bearing on the market. It's not until the thing is actually listed that it has any pull or push.

PLEX bought with cash and then stuck on banned accts is free money to CCP that they don't have to reimburse through game-time. Thus, someone down the road is gonna buy another one. Why on CCP's dark Eve would they move them from one acct to another, or destroy and spawn new ones? It is entirely to their fiscal advantage to leave them on the banned accts.

Theoretically, if CCP were to despawn those PLEX, it could trigger some nasty legal repercussions. (Maybe/maybe not, I'm not a lawyer.)

It is entirely within the power of GMs or whoever in CCP to spawn stuff at will. (T20 anyone?) If they decide to start fiddling with the PLEX market, I seriously doubt they will do it by shooting themselves in the financial foot by spawning PLEXes that aren't paid for.

Since they would count as "siezed" assets (because they were assets in a banned account, which means CCP can do what they will with the contents of that account due to breaking the EULA) - CCP could probably do anything they wanted with those items.

And if they're legally not allowed to destroy them, they could simply "virtually" destroy them by leaving them rot in the banned account.

... and minerals you mine yourself are free

If the PLEX is used for gametime CCP has to provide a service in exchange for the money, if the PLEX isn't used for gametime but destroyed/forgotten CCP gets the money without having to provide a service in return and might get an additional PLEX sale (because somebody somewhere would have wanted to use that first PLEX for gametime and will now buy another one)

Of course it's better for CCP to leave the PLEXes on dead/banned accounts alone - unless you consider the impact of high PLEX prices in general (the business model of EVE in one sentence: new players pay the subscription price for old players and old players create the content that attracts new players).


just putting those two statements next to each other.

My bet is that CCP will use them in order to keep plex prices at a point that makes them the most money.

It's a bell curve for those of you who seem to be missing the point.

When a new player wants to buy a 1bil ship he would have to buy 4 plex if plex is 250mil value.
He only has to buy 2 at 500mil value. So more money for ccp if the price is low.

On the other side of the coin if they release all this plex in the market 1 out of every so many plex won't be new profit.
This could hurt ccp income too much. You also have the 250mil price something a lot of players could afford with isk and would not be paying for thier accounts.


Simple version is if plex is too cheap ccp could lose money. If plex is too high ccp could lose money. What they mean by an equalibriam is when the market is set perfectly "according to CCP" at the top of the bell curve where they make the most money.

I'd be shocked if they don't manipulate the market slowly both ways with this plex that is already paid as it's in thier best interest. (( Also they probly wouldn't even talk about it much less give a number if they weren't going to ))
Say no to the fed! No eve central bank! On average it will just cost the player base more money.