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Charity Black
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-03-23 01:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Charity Black
Hello, everyone. I’ve been asked to post my story on the IGS by Seraphim, so I am honoring that request.

I was born 02.24 YC95, to Alavitus and Serena Black, slaves. My mother died during childbirth and my father a month later due to a heart condition. Since I was orphaned, my holder and his lady took me in and raised me, very much as their daughter. I ate at their table, slept in their manor. When I was sick, my lady would take care of me, bring me soup for a change. The only difference was that I was a slave. They made no pretense, nor did I. Their house crest was ever-present on my clothes, above my left breast. When I was scolded as a child, I was called slave, where other parents would just say their child’s name sharply. Once when I was thirteen, I drank a bottle of my lord’s wine. My lady helped me to recover bringing me water as I threw up and was miserable. They watched over my every move for a month, no free time what so ever, everything was timed.

I do not mean to sound like it was all bad. To the contrary, I would say that I was extremely well treated. Had I been free it would have been a life that I would have enjoyed. Once the war is over I would like to go to my lord and lady and thank them for raising me as they did. I was never hungry; I had a warm bed and a roof over my head.

However, what the Amarrians fail to realize is that a gilded cage is still a cage. The best treated slave is still a slave. Freedom is the universal constant, the freedom to chose one’s destiny is what gives life meaning.

I was in bondage, but had no chains.
I was forced to work, but felt no whip.
I was made to worship, but felt no god.
My Holder cared for me when I was sick,
comforted me when I was sad,
I do not hate him.
But what they fail to understand is that without freedom,
color becomes pallor,
man becomes carcass,
home becomes catacomb.
And life becomes a mockery.
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#2 - 2012-03-23 01:43:54 UTC
Your story sounds quite similar to mine. We should talk.
Bai'xao Meiyi
#3 - 2012-03-23 01:44:04 UTC
I'm very glad you were so fortunate to have kind holders. Most aren't so lucky. It makes me happier that you chose to join the war on the righteous side.
Seraphim Aguila
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-03-23 02:02:45 UTC
Charity, you are a very beautiful person. May your story and poem touch the hearts of many.
D'Leh Mannuck
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-03-23 02:22:31 UTC
And once you join the "war for freedom" I hope for you that it won't happen that someone like you takes a fancy in killing those you would wish to see again after the war.

For they are loved by you but hated by many like you. And remember that many you kill might be as loved by others who came from the same place like you.

Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-03-26 08:41:01 UTC
Charity Black wrote:

I was in bondage, but had no chains.
I was forced to work, but felt no whip.
I was made to worship, but felt no god.
My Holder cared for me when I was sick,
comforted me when I was sad,
I do not hate him.
But what they fail to understand is that without freedom,
color becomes pallor,
man becomes carcass,
home becomes catacomb.
And life becomes a mockery.


I'm happy to hear you were cared for so well as a child. It seems the prevailing notion is that only the horror stories of slave abuse are the stories that end up creeping into the public light, so it is nice to see when the opposite sort of story is shared. However there are some obvious omissions in your story. Such as how you came to be a free woman within the Republic as a capsuleer. I'd be very interested to hear the story behind that.

I went ahead and added some emphasis in your poem so I could address that specific part. Now, with no malice toward your former Holders and adoptive parents, but since you can say that one line it's quite clear that they failed in their task as your Holders. Yes they provided for you, kept you safe, raised you and probably loved you more than they would let on in those more stern moments, but if you left their care and didn't find God, then they failed you in that way. Without knowing a bit more about how and why you are now a former slave, I can only guess this failure is in no small part due to your feelings on slavery in general. To that end, beyond asking to hear more of your past, if you're willing to share, I'd also like to ask one more thing. In your freedom, your ability to choose your own path, what, if any, spiritual knowledge or practice does resonate with you?
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2012-03-26 10:09:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
Bai'xao Meiyi wrote:
I'm very glad you were so fortunate to have kind holders. Most aren't so lucky.


What evidence do you have to back this statement up?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Meklon
Minmatar United Freedom Front
#8 - 2012-03-26 10:23:20 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Bai'xao Meiyi wrote:
I'm very glad you were so fortunate to have kind holders. Most aren't so lucky.


What evidence do you have to back this statement up?



What evidence do you have to not back this statement up?
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#9 - 2012-03-26 11:24:56 UTC
Meklon wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Bai'xao Meiyi wrote:
I'm very glad you were so fortunate to have kind holders. Most aren't so lucky.


What evidence do you have to back this statement up?



What evidence do you have to not back this statement up?


I'm not the one making a claim, so it's not really necessary for me to provide evidence.

But the fact that mistreatment of slaves goes against Imperial edicts, is counter-productive and is morally suspect should be enough for most people to accept that the majority of slaves are not mistreated despite what Shakorite propaganda would have them believe.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Meklon
Minmatar United Freedom Front
#10 - 2012-03-26 11:58:38 UTC
If that is the case, I would imagine that PIE themselves adhere to these Imperial edicts.


If that is true, then did your own Archbishop ever get tried for his mis-treatment of slaves? I don't believe abandoning a single slave in a cargo container in the depths of space with merely a copy of the Pax and a slaver hound would count as good treatment?


Gods, I've missed this circle jerk with you Rodjy....
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#11 - 2012-03-26 12:25:50 UTC
It really is simple. If it is the case only a minority of slaves were abused, there would have been no Rebellion. People who are generally happy or at least content with their station in life simply do not rebel. It thus follows there must have been a great deal of abuse, or else no Rebellion would have happened.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2012-03-26 12:58:42 UTC
Rek Jaiga wrote:
It really is simple. If it is the case only a minority of slaves were abused, there would have been no Rebellion. People who are generally happy or at least content with their station in life simply do not rebel. It thus follows there must have been a great deal of abuse, or else no Rebellion would have happened.


Non sequitur. Abuses on the person are not the only factor acting in most rebellions.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2012-03-26 13:01:12 UTC
Meklon wrote:
If that is the case, I would imagine that PIE themselves adhere to these Imperial edicts.


If that is true, then did your own Archbishop ever get tried for his mis-treatment of slaves? I don't believe abandoning a single slave in a cargo container in the depths of space with merely a copy of the Pax and a slaver hound would count as good treatment?


Gods, I've missed this circle jerk with you Rodjy....



I'm sure that you don't need reminding that Archbishop is the chair of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Slaves.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#14 - 2012-03-26 13:02:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
Rek Jaiga wrote:
It really is simple. If it is the case only a minority of slaves were abused, there would have been no Rebellion. People who are generally happy or at least content with their station in life simply do not rebel. It thus follows there must have been a great deal of abuse, or else no Rebellion would have happened.


If we assume for a moment that you're right, then by your logic those slaves which did not rebel were well treated, and the fact that rebellions are now rare demonstrates that slaves are mostly treated well.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#15 - 2012-03-26 13:20:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Jaiga
Not at all Rodj. Let me lay this down simply.

If people have rebelled, they must have been unhappy.

If P, then Q.

Not-P does not imply not-Q.


Denying the antecedent, are we Blake? To be more verbose, there are cases where rebellions are put down or the people brainwashed. These would be cases where there is slave abuse without rebellion.
Zana Shad
Ares Enterprises
#16 - 2012-03-26 13:22:50 UTC
Growing up, I was exposed to slavery as a routine part of life. My family had many slaves in our employ and they filled all types of tasks from personal care to industrial and agricultural production. I will admit that the discipline imposed on them could be harsh. With that said, the harshest punishments were rare. I can only recall a handfull of public lashings, and 1 or 2 executions at the most and these were for a slave who had attempted to murder my mother.

This discipline was imposed by my father, his master of Slaves, and even myself once I grew old enough to underdstand their need for punishment for their crimes and afronts to God. Only through suffering of the flesh can they attain enlightenment and ultimately be reclaimed.

I can understand though how many slave owners can mis-interpret this to mean that mistreatment is ok, or even encouraged. The truth is that the suffering of the flesh is most often acheived through physical labour. It is unfortunate that it seems that those few Holders who over-indulge in their slaves and abuse them in any number of ways are the ones who are so publicly seen.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#17 - 2012-03-26 13:36:24 UTC
Rek Jaiga wrote:
Not at all Rodj. Let me lay this down simply.

If people have rebelled, they must have been unhappy.

If P, then Q.

Not-P does not imply not-Q.


Denying the antecedent, are we Blake? To be more verbose, there are cases where rebellions are put down or the people brainwashed. These would be cases where there is slave abuse without rebellion.



And yet I'm still waiting for actual evidence that the majority of slaves are badly treated.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Meklon
Minmatar United Freedom Front
#18 - 2012-03-26 13:46:10 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Meklon wrote:
If that is the case, I would imagine that PIE themselves adhere to these Imperial edicts.


If that is true, then did your own Archbishop ever get tried for his mis-treatment of slaves? I don't believe abandoning a single slave in a cargo container in the depths of space with merely a copy of the Pax and a slaver hound would count as good treatment?


Gods, I've missed this circle jerk with you Rodjy....



I'm sure that you don't need reminding that Archbishop is the chair of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Slaves.



Would that make you the table?
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#19 - 2012-03-26 14:29:17 UTC
Rodj, I just presented evidence. It's called history. Furthermore, if the Empire is so merciful and great, why are there more Matari coming to the Republic willingly than the reverse (Matari willingly leaving the Republic to go to the Empire)?
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#20 - 2012-03-26 14:50:36 UTC
Rek Jaiga wrote:
Rodj, I just presented evidence. It's called history. Furthermore, if the Empire is so merciful and great, why are there more Matari coming to the Republic willingly than the reverse (Matari willingly leaving the Republic to go to the Empire)?


No, what you presented was conjecture and supposition.

Simply saying that slaves only rebel when they are mistreated is a gross oversimplification. There are many examples of ungrateful slaves rebelling when they are well treated.

Perhaps some Minmatars choose to go to the Republic because they believe the propaganda put out by the likes of you. Many of them find out the truth once they get there (such as Abel Jarek).

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

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