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Scorpion Fit
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Zaltone
SkyDog Freight and Logistics
#1 - 2012-03-21 21:40:58 UTC
Anyone got a mission scorpion fit ? Or a Rokh fit for lvl 4's ? I like trying wierd ship designs for missions to keep things interesting.

The Dominix is always, the answer the question doesnt matter!!!!!
Zaltone
SkyDog Freight and Logistics
#2 - 2012-03-21 22:16:17 UTC
No one really im disappointed i was a least hoping for a scorpion with large smartbombs with a AB to get close to the frigates in a lvl 1. Or aleast on legit Rokh fit :(.

The Dominix is always, the answer the question doesnt matter!!!!!
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Gildinous Vangaurd
The Initiative.
#3 - 2012-03-21 22:22:01 UTC
I presume you're asking for a Navy Scorpion fit? If so, use this as a template (hardeners and ammo for Guristas):

[Scorpion Navy Issue, Mission]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Peripheral Weapon Navigation Diameter

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Trauma Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Trauma Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Trauma Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Trauma Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Trauma Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Trauma Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Bay Loading Accelerator I


Hornet II x5
Vespa II x5

If you'd rather have more tank, replace the launcher rigs with extenders.

"I am a leaf on the...ah, frak it!"
Zaltone
SkyDog Freight and Logistics
#4 - 2012-03-21 22:29:38 UTC
Yeah that will work I was really hoping for a reg scorpion rig but I can make due with a ship actually made for missions :)

The Dominix is always, the answer the question doesnt matter!!!!!
Alara IonStorm
#5 - 2012-03-21 22:36:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
[Scorpion Navy Issue, Mission]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Conjunctive Gravimetric ECCM Scanning Array I

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Black Eagle Drone Link Augmentor

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

I use this fit for my SNI.
Zaltone
SkyDog Freight and Logistics
#6 - 2012-03-21 22:49:27 UTC
Or a fit to use against angels ?

The Dominix is always, the answer the question doesnt matter!!!!!
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-03-21 22:59:07 UTC
Nothing weird about these ships. A regular Scorp on the other hand would be weird but thats because its dps sucks and that just boring. Try a ship that cant fit a tank properly instead like a tier 3 BC or t1 cruiser for higher level missions, practice that speed tank.
Zaltone
SkyDog Freight and Logistics
#8 - 2012-03-21 23:10:37 UTC
Yeah I was hopeing to get in close with short range guns and use the most of the mids in the mid for tank with the rigs and lows for extra gank and speed. in eft i got the scorpion reg up to 375m/s and fitted with autocannons and torpedos with a range of like 15 km. but its only pushing out 488 dps. I just love the way the scorpion hull looks. i was hoping to use something like this in Minmatar space against angels?

The Dominix is always, the answer the question doesnt matter!!!!!
Alara IonStorm
#9 - 2012-03-21 23:13:19 UTC
Zaltone wrote:
Or a fit to use against angels ?

[Scorpion Navy Issue, Angel]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

I should stress that Fury Missiles do full damage to Battleships and equal damage as standard Cruise Missiles to Battlecruisers for Cruisers you need Standard Missiles.
Mike712
Tenth Plague of Egypt
#10 - 2012-03-21 23:17:01 UTC
Zaltone wrote:
Yeah I was hopeing to get in close with short range guns and use the most of the mids in the mid for tank with the rigs and lows for extra gank and speed. in eft i got the scorpion reg up to 375m/s and fitted with autocannons and torpedos with a range of like 15 km. but its only pushing out 488 dps. I just love the way the scorpion hull looks. i was hoping to use something like this in Minmatar space against angels?


Normal scorp is not viable in the slightest for PvE.

A navy scorp is ok with cruise missiles, but a CNR is better.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, Lv4 Navy Scorpion]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Photon Scattering Field II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


^that's how you fit one for maximum performance.

Regards, Mike712 The BattleClinic Team
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-03-21 23:27:25 UTC
Sounds like you want to go all out crazy.

[Typhoon Fleet Issue, PvE]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

100MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L

Large Ancillary Current Router I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Ogre II x5
Zaltone
SkyDog Freight and Logistics
#12 - 2012-03-21 23:32:42 UTC
Yeah super crazy Im a crazy guy.
I was think something like this .
Please give nice feedback I know this is crazy but plug it into evefit and tell me what you think for up close missioning.

[Scorpion, Battle Scorpion]
Gyrostabilizer II
Ballistic Control System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Gyrostabilizer II

Explosive Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Explosive Deflection Field II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
100MN Afterburner II

Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L
Siege Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Torpedo

Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Large Dynamic Fuel Valve I
Large Auxiliary Thrusters I

The Dominix is always, the answer the question doesnt matter!!!!!
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-03-21 23:45:35 UTC
Rohk fit is 4 mag stabs, 8 x 425 rails. As much DPS as a navy raven.

Tank is whatever you need pretty much anything fits.

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Zaltone
SkyDog Freight and Logistics
#14 - 2012-03-21 23:48:53 UTC
I see the point of useing the rokh but i dont want to stand still and snipe i want to brawl. I want to do it in style wait can a blaster fit work on a Rokh?

The Dominix is always, the answer the question doesnt matter!!!!!
Alara IonStorm
#15 - 2012-03-21 23:55:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Zaltone wrote:

Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L

If yu have Auto's this should work.

[Maelstrom, Angel]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Domination X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
100MN Afterburner II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Valkyrie II x5

Also have you considered a Torp Raven. They are very difficult to fly though.
Mike712
Tenth Plague of Egypt
#16 - 2012-03-21 23:56:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike712
Zaltone wrote:
I see the point of useing the rokh but i dont want to stand still and snipe i want to brawl. I want to do it in style wait can a blaster fit work on a Rokh?


Blaster rokh is ok, but generally blasters don't work as well in missions as rails.

Rokh is kinda slow, so you need a MWD(or use null all of the time which results in not much more DPS than rails), running a MWD means you need a cap booster, a web is kinda needed too, + tracking mods, you've gotta fit some tank on top of all that and you only have so many slots to get it all on. This usually results in having to use an expensive setup with a deadspace shield booster or you're going to run out of cap boosters before you finish most missions.

[Rokh, Lv4 Blaster Rokh]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Heat Dissipation Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

My favorite rokh setup is this:

[Rokh, Lv4 Rokh]
Tracking Enhancer II
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer

Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Invulnerability Field II

425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Expensive, but it's DPS is almost on par with that of the CNR with T2 cruise.

Regards, Mike712 The BattleClinic Team
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-03-21 23:59:03 UTC  |  Edited by: RougeOperator
Zaltone wrote:
I see the point of useing the rokh but i dont want to stand still and snipe i want to brawl. I want to do it in style wait can a blaster fit work on a Rokh?



Yeah just mess around with TEs and Tracking comps till you get the ranges you want. Usually between 30-60 km ranges depending on ammo you want to use. Anti should be around 30 km Null at least 60 km everything else in between. Further depending on implants and other factors.

And then there is VOID for pure face melt DPS within 20km.

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Zaltone
SkyDog Freight and Logistics
#18 - 2012-03-22 00:29:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Zaltone
So noone likes the scorpion fit ? I like the malestrom fit best so far

The Dominix is always, the answer the question doesnt matter!!!!!
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-03-22 09:00:07 UTC
Zaltone wrote:
So noone likes the scorpion fit ? I like the malestrom fit best so far



Its low DPS makes it just kinda Meh when the CNR or Rokh are out there for Caldari pilots.

It can fit monster tank so its a good starter ship for someone not used to level 4s whom is missile spec before dropping isk on a CNR?

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Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-03-22 10:03:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike Whiite
Mike712 wrote:
[A navy scorp is ok with cruise missiles, but a CNR is better.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, Lv4 Navy Scorpion]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Photon Scattering Field II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


^that's how you fit one for maximum performance.



Hi Mike those Cap rechargers are to run cap stable?

I was thinking on something like the same line

with some exceptions on the midslots

Cap Booster II (800 ) (instead of the Reacharcher)
Republic Target Painter (Insted of the meta 4)
Republic Target Painter (insteadof the recharger)
Caldari Navy XL Shield Booster (lack the resources at the moment for a Gist type and have the LP for this one)

Highslots (training up to tech t2 so Meta 4 launchers for now)
Drone Link Augmentor I

riggs starting out with tech one then upgrading to 2

Comments are apreaciated

EDIT: as for why a SNI instead of the CNR, I think it looks better :)
And when and if the need arrives to go to a CNR most modules can be transfered
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