Warfare & Tactics

Yes, there are unoccupied wormholes.

And what statics you need will depend on your usage of it. If you have a group of players who will run through sites quickly, then the static will matter far more than the system you're in; if you only have a few players, then your system will matter more.

And, personally, I prefer to have a lowsec static if you want a k-space static. It cuts down a lot on unwanted visitors but it doesn't hurt your logistics too much (if you're living in a wormhole, getting through lowsec should be a piece of cake).

C2's have 2 statics, one to w-space, one to k-space. Personally, I'd recommend something like a C2 with a C2 and a low sec statics (D382 and A239). There's a lot of those and you're more likely to find an unoccupied system like that than an unoccupied C2 with a high sec static (B274). The low sec connection might sound like a bad deal but it's actually not. There's a LOT of C2's with high sec statics, and since you always have access to a C2 from a system with D382 and A239 statics, you'll often be one jump away from high sec. Plus, low sec exits aren't that bad, and you'll get less traffic than you will through a high sec exit. The convenience of high sec connections comes at a price The advantage of having a C2 static is that in addition to farming your home system, you can also farm your neighbor system and since that changes daily, you won't run out of sites (which will happen in your home system soon enough if you actively clear it out).

Basically, C2's are a good place to start if you're a noob to w-space, C3's are still solo-able but will require more effort and experience.

Finding a suitable home might take a while, it's largely a matter of luck. Park some scanner alts in a few systems with C2 statics, scan daily, check out systems thoroughly, when you find something that looks promising keep an alt there for a few days as well just to make sure there are no surprises. Also, you might find systems that have a control tower or two anchored, but no signs of life (no force field, often not even any modules left at the towers). This is pretty common and most systems like that are indeed abandoned and empty.

And, of course... Read guides, learn as much as you can before committing your assets, etc.

There are a ffeew ways to go about finding a nice hole to live in. The easiest is to just grab a scanning cob ops and go hole diving for a bit. You'll find where you can set up pretty quick with just a few dscans, and if you're lucky no one will shoot you right after toy jump in. If you don't feel like scanning about (which is never something you should say if you want to live in a hole btw), use taggert to buy one or hit up a wormhole alliance. For just starting out, i'd recommend a c2. They are basically the training space before hitting the larger holes. Good luck and fly safe.

one more small question about moving into wormholes.

Is it advisable to use an orca w/ a couple indies for the logistics operation of moving stuff in or should I pack it all in industrials and move the pos / fuel / guns in that way?

Bernie gave you good advice. Also keep in mind that:

An orca uses 250 mill of the wh mass, while an industrial uses about 15.
An industrial can align relatively quickly, while the orca is SLOW to get away from the wh.

If I'm a ganker at the wormhole, it's easier for me to catch your orca than your iteron, due to that align time issue. And I will kill either one of them without much trouble unless you have combat backup.

If you are moving into a C2 with LS/C2 statics, that means you are most likely gonna be flying through at least 1 other system (LS or a c2) to get your stuff in. When I see an industrial (badger, iteron, etc) on dscan in my wh, I start looking for it. If I see an orca I look even harder, because it's a bigger target and I know it's easier to catch, with potentially more loot to scoop.

All good reasons why, in my opinion, industrials are a far better option for moving stuff around.

thanks everyone for your top quality posts here. I am feeling like I am not even on eve forums

so here's my plan then...

Bring it all in in iterons using a couple cloaky recons along the way. iterons will be carrying pos, fuel, stront, and guns.

after I get them all in the wh, start anchoring pos, then move in a protective fleet.


I have 4 logis at my disposal, probably will only get 2 during the op tho. say its two bassi's how long yall recokon itll take to rep the shields up?

You should probably have at least one fast scouting ship. Any ordinary frigate will as a cheap ship you can risk blindly tossing into the fray ahead of everything else is a lot better.

Iterons are rather fat. Try seeing if you can get at least one transport ship going.

Two bassi's will take a rather long time. I'm not sure exactly how long but at least an hour.

Something to note, you can jump through a wh from 5km. So if you jump your hauler in, wait out session timer, then approach wh, if someone attacks, just jump out, if not warp to pos, you will be warping before you go past the 5km jump range, if attacked after you hit warp to.. cancel warp... and you got it.. jump out. When you jump into the wh, you will normally be within 5km.. so never panic, wait out session timer.. and jump out. Obviously if you exit is to LS this will not do you much good...

I won't help you move in, but I'll be more than happy to give advice.

And yes, if you run across one of our home system, well, hope you brought the scout in first as opposed to your indys. ;)

I see quite a few unoccupied holes, and even more barely-occupied ones. We took over ours with three bombers and a handful of battleships.