Warfare & Tactics

1.Gallente Miltia
2. Minmatar Miltia
3. Amarr Mitlia

See, three miltia's, I feel like the Gallente need a natural enemy to fight other than Pirates in the local waters and or PL Titans, I hope that CCP will create a fourth miltia for us (The Gallente) to fight. Im jealus the Minnies have Amarr and the Amarr have the Minnies while the Gallente have no one. Sure the gallente can shoot the Amarr but thats just not the same.

We need to come up with a list of factions that can possibly fill in this 4th Mitlia slot, Together we can get a 4th miltia in the game! We must get a faction for the Gallente to fight!

This thread is amazing.

The forth faction? Do you mean Shadow Cartel?

You guys sure are full of your selves lately.. Then again when were you not, so nothing new..

If you don't like FW quit your bitching and moaning and move on.. Go to null sec ..or oh wait you did that and came crawling back didn't yea..

Meanwhile Caldari continue to kill **** all hours of the day, unlike Gallente that never seem to undock if it's out side their 4 hour window of US time zone blobing hours. Of course Caldari are fail though and Gallente are l33t bitter vets that only undock when they "want' to.

/emote waves from the EU tz bobbing 4 hour window not the US...........

Joking apart Galatica789 kinda has a point (even though I think I need to have a "Gall" chat with him about forum posting ) - I know the days of 100 man Gallente versus Caldari are in the past but other than small little skirmishes here and there there has been virtually nothing.

We used to get spanked as much as we won and even tho no-one liked getting beat it was way more fun, nowadays in our tz (eu) particularly the only decent size fights we get are from the local pirate entities.

Problem is tho on that front pvp in eve especially in low sec is completely different to a couple of years ago. Gone are the general large roaming bs type gangs and replaced by people having alts and eyes all over the place looking for something either to drop on or counter something that they know is being formed up.

And you are .. who and relevant ... how ? All kidding aside, massive props to Piranha Protectorate for trying to step up and deploy a proper fleet , the rest of you resume shitposting while you're spinning buttons in plexes drooling over a thrasher kill.

You're fast to yell blob, but you are not putting the slightest effort in thinking how to defeat the blob. In 2012 when everyone uses hg talisman bhaals to neut triage you don't even have the brains to deploy a freaking neuting baddon with your fleets and **** the drunk Tek Thanny drop. Seriously, other than NPCing in plexes, you have nothing to show, you get the odd gank and or small gang win against general milita noobs, but when it comes to proper fleet warfare your tactic is yelling : "blob !!!!" and spamming warp.

Pro tip : take reality as is instead of manufacturing your own, and from there you can see what you lack or what you're doing wrong and you can start improving.

You guys are up and able to forum post, yet I have 2 Drake running around all over the Gal vs Cal war front and what do I see..

2 Gal's docked up in Hey.. (opps 1 just logged)
5 Gals docked up in Nisuwa.. (including Galatica789 & a Gal Tengu docked or cloaked soon as I entered local.)
1 Gal docked up in Rakapass
1 Gal docked up in Nenn

Now you guys complain that this is when we are out there taking plexes/systems and you have no numbers to compete. Meanwhile most of the times we are out plexing at these hours it's in gangs of 5 or less.

You guys have numbers to come out and get small gang fights just like Caldari do day in and out. Most of our smaller gangs at odd hours are well under 10 strong. You guys in your non EU blob hours can very easily undock and find small gang fights and match our numbers yet you rarely ever do, aside from a random hero guy in a frig or from time to time or the typical Cynabal / Vagawhore l33t pvpers.

I just did 30 to 40 jumps with 2 Drakes, using no scout blind jumping through the busy pipes of Placid, Black Rise and the upper half of Syndicate. The only fight I found was a few NPC's on random gates, to help my sec status while I was out in Syndicate.

You guys ***** and whine about having nothing to fight with your 30 man BS & BC's gangs yet where are you, when we are out looking for small gang fights? Here I will give you a clue.. FW has rarely been about large well organized large gang fighting. It's typically always been about random blob vs blob kitchen sink fights at best.

From time to time, all the moons align and both sides of this Militia or that, can field decent gangs and go at it daily. This has never been the rule, but is typically the exception. Normally it's typical of one side to have numbers on 1 time zone while the other side have numbers in a different time zone.

You guys want to ***** and moan that you have no one to fight that can match your fleets & numbers in your prime time. Meanwhile you blue up the only corp that actually could fight you head to head on Caldari side and then they move off to Amarr Militia, as to not have to fight you up here so you can keep your bros at arms length.

Let me clue you in on another thing.. Many corps have come before you that have bulked up in Militia and grown into well organized machines such as your own. The difference is most of these other groups have realized at some point or another that it was time to move on because they couldn't get fights in FW anymore.

Just off the top of my head I can think of No Mercy & Draketrain, whom have both moved on with their numbers and better organized gangs, to do what ever it is they do now out in null sec. Sovetsky Soyuz guys joined their Russian friends to be local pies.. BYDI moved on.. Heritic guys did their thing in Amamake after leaving FW.. ect..ect..

There is a long list of corps that went on to make their way after starting off or at least bulking up in one Militia or another. You guys stick around after building up over time gathering a nice amount of high SP players with a lot of PVP experience and have eventually come to the point that you can field pretty nice gangs.

You expect Caldari whom have lost 2 of our most organized corps (Draketrain & Wolfy) and loads of higher SP pilots, to somehow magically pull well oiled BC & BS gangs out of our asses, at a time we have just started to build back our numbers and activity.

Meanwhile Caldari guys are out fighting day in and out, with small roaming gangs, while the bulk of Gallente sit spinning ships in Nenn, Rakk, Hey ect..ect not willing to leave their little 4 or 5 jump safety net radius of the same systems. This is the fight you have.. if you don't like it, quit whining and move on, otherwise undock & fly more than 5 jumps before you run back to your stations claiming there are no Caldari and do some small gang fighting as that's what Caldari do day in and out.

Caldari are actually very active at the moment. It's just that they are fighting in small gangs in plexes flying destroyers and T1 cruisers rather than in BS/Logi and nano Drake fleets.

I put 2 Vindis in space and I'd suddenly have my pick of 20 Gallente or 15 pies whoring on the mails. Two irrelevant Drakes is usually just enough to get a reasonable fight, 6 or 8 Drakes and it's 20 Gallente or 15 pies. As a young corp full of a lot of low SP players, we kinda struggle with the ability to be able to actually undock a small BC gang and to actually fight the numbers that normally show up if we do.

This means we just use BC's & occasional BS as a corp, to hit and run random targets of opportunity or do dumb things like I do and roam around solo or tag teaming, but always have to run & hide the second the blob is awakened, by reports of gankable stuff flying in space. This means we have to revert back to step 1 of flying cheap Thrashers to avoid the blob.

You say 0.0 is bad, but IMO you ignore one of the better spots in the game that is just right around the corner from where we all live. This is a serious suggestion and I understand that you guys don't want to move on from FW, but if my corp was in the same place yours is now I would have us living in Syndicate no questions asked.

You guys have become a successful FW corp same as Wolfy have, but you have somewhat outgrown the fish tank as there aren't capable gangs in Caldari that are able to fight what you can bring to the table, let alone the other random Gallente corps that would also be whoring into any potential fights.

Go to Syndicate, it's NPC space and doesn't have a Sov warfare crap that makes things boring, it's right on the border of FW space which allows you to easily stay involved in FW but also lets you get more opportunity to get the fights you are looking for.

There are always random gangs rolling through Syndicate & there are several other groups out there that I'm pretty certain would love to have some nice BC & BS gangs to fight on a routine basis. I know I always see Rote Kapelle gangs out there and they are always looking for fights. The Hot Dropping Unicorns are always just one cyno away and there are several other smaller groups that live out there whom make for good targets and did I mention random roaming gangs that routinely roam there?

Added bonus, you guys & Wolfy both put your self on the map a bit with the Titian kill so if you go somewhere like Syndicate people will come to fight you.

Just a suggestion but that's where I'd be with my corp if I was in your shoes..

We have already been to syndicate and set up base there in the past mate and had some great fun – the last time we were there we got threatened that “our 1000 man alliance is going to camp you indefinitely in station” 2 weeks later they disbanded…….

We also do regular roadtrips to syndicate space / catch basically wherever we see the opportunities on the map which does involve more than roaming more than 5 jumps as you keep aluding to (check the killboards and you will see kills/losses in these areas – mainly on Friday nights as they are longer roams ofc) and we are actively looking constantly for areas of space where we can get some fights

I sometimes think you tarnish your own tz experiences with that of other tz’s (which I know is hard not to do as you can only call what you see).

But basically Mutnin, i agree with what you said.