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EVE Ships Skills Planner - Version 1.3 available

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Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#1 - 2012-03-20 14:05:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Ideki
EVE Ships Skills Planner is a small tool I created to have a quick and easy overview of which ships I can fly in EVE Online.

One of the main problem when you start to play EVE online is to decide what ships you want to fly.
Once you found a ship, you have to learn all the skills required to fly it.
But how much will it really take to be able to fly that ship?
And more importantly how much more time would it take to fly it efficiently?

Or, you could be a corporation recruiter evaluating a potential recruit.
Can that guy really fly a bomber? or a carrier? or a hulk ? without wasting the ship potential because that player can barely use it (meaning he just has the minimum skills required to fly it)
How much time would it take for that player to be efficient with that ship?

Or when a corporation is at war and you are in dire need of snipers or tacklers, how long would it take for your members to train for those roles ?

It is to answer those questions that I created this tool.

For each ship available in EVE Online the tool will display if you have the skill required to at least fly it, as well as the skills you need to fly it efficiently (according to the ship certificates)

Now this tool is still under development.
I am adding feature as fast as I can think of them, and implement them.
It is also possible that there are still a few bugs that I missed in all my testing.

I will update the News section when I do modifications to the tool.
So be sure to check it from time to time.

If you find any bugs, or inconsistencies in the data, please leave a message in this thread (or that one)
I will come read it often and try to fix the bugs as soon as possible.

You can get the tool here.
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#2 - 2012-03-20 14:05:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ideki
Version 1.3 is now available!

List of features available so far:

  • Show the list of ships that exists in EVE Online.
  • For each ship shows the Name, Race and Class.
  • For each ship shows the minimum time required to learn to fly it.
  • For each ship shows the recommenced time to fly the ship efficiently (based on the ship certificates)
  • Double click on a ship row will open a popup with the list of skills required and suggested to fly the ship.
  • Each skill shows your current level (in white), the required level (in red) and the suggested level (in green)
  • You can specify an API key to allow the tool to take in account your own skills.
  • You can specify someone else API key to lookup their ships-fly-skills.
  • You can modify your atributes to see the impact they would have on the required/suggested training time.
  • Supports multiple characters per API key.
  • Filtering
  • Ship tech level support
Rashpla Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#3 - 2012-03-20 14:47:23 UTC
Nice tool for quick checkup when for some reason you don't want to or can't use Evemon (can't really think about why it would be a case but ppl do strange things :) ).

Anyhow, keep up good work, one more tool to help newbies (and maybe not only them) to get some direction in overwhelming world of Eve is good thing.

Features that you probably already have on your list:
- filters for race, faction, ship class, tier
- ships.xml file maybe should be downloaded by the tool if it is not present on hdd, you already have implemented checking for new version so it should be similar case
- attributes of character without API key should be saved, I know it is only five numbers to enter but still - usability boost is never a bad thing

That's all I can think of right now after 5 minutes ninja testing while at work :)
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#4 - 2012-03-20 14:49:55 UTC
Rashpla Bastanold wrote:
Nice tool for quick checkup when for some reason you don't want to or can't use Evemon (can't really think about why it would be a case but ppl do strange things :) ).

Anyhow, keep up good work, one more tool to help newbies (and maybe not only them) to get some direction in overwhelming world of Eve is good thing.

Features that you probably already have on your list:
- filters for race, faction, ship class, tier
- ships.xml file maybe should be downloaded by the tool if it is not present on hdd, you already have implemented checking for new version so it should be similar case
- attributes of character without API key should be saved, I know it is only five numbers to enter but still - usability boost is never a bad thing

That's all I can think of right now after 5 minutes ninja testing while at work :)


Thanks for the feedback.

This is weird, the Ships.xml should be automatically downloaded if it cannot be found.
I will take a look at this issue at lunch time.

Thanks for the ideas. Big smile
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#5 - 2012-03-20 14:54:26 UTC
Oh, and the reason why this is not EVEMon is because EVE is having a lot of features that cannot make it a bit scary at time for new players.
I just wanted something fast and easy for people to use.
I do not plan to do everything EVEMon is doing.
The people that worked on it did a great job, and I do not want to take over their ideas.

Sometime it is nice to also just have a simpler version of things. Blink
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#6 - 2012-03-20 16:28:37 UTC
Rashpla, how were you able to get that bug?
Because I just tried it, and upon startup the tool detected that the file was not there, then asked if it was ok to download it.

Unless you meant that the tool should download it automatically if it is not there instead of asking permission to download ?
Rashpla Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#7 - 2012-03-21 08:57:51 UTC
I'm sorry for delay but you know real life and all that stuff...

I tried it once more today and if ships.xml file is not present I get error message "Could not find file " + path to a directory where I have your tool and where file is expected to be. Now I noticed that there is skillTree.xml created or downloaded but no ships.xml and no question whether I want to download it or not.

I have Win7 64bit Ultimate and I tried running your tool as admin, all I get is error message. Maybe it is related to some network filters our company has and you are not able to connect with your url where file is? I will try running planner later at home. But I suppose you display question before you try to download a file from your site and I don't see any question so... yeah, sth is wrong. Or maybe it is just a quirk on my machine and if nobody else is complaining forget about it and focus on some new features or promotion of a tool.

And I completely understand that Evemon is little overwhelming especially when you are a newbie and don't really know about all those API keys and tiers and stack penalties and all shabang that is called Eve. For those ppl your skill planner can be really valuable so I am happy you have a will to create sth new for our great MMO.
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#8 - 2012-03-21 17:33:40 UTC
I have uploaded a new version of the tool.


The new features are:

  • Filtering: There is now a new menu entry 'Options'. From there you can open the Filters window and apply various type of filters on the ships in the grid.
  • Grid information: added some basic information about the grid in the status bar:
  1. Number of ships
  2. Number of ships you can fly
  3. Number of ships you can fly efficiently


As usual suggestions and bugs are welcomed.
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#9 - 2012-03-21 17:35:14 UTC
Rashpla Bastanold wrote:
I'm sorry for delay but you know real life and all that stuff...

I tried it once more today and if ships.xml file is not present I get error message "Could not find file " + path to a directory where I have your tool and where file is expected to be. Now I noticed that there is skillTree.xml created or downloaded but no ships.xml and no question whether I want to download it or not.

I have Win7 64bit Ultimate and I tried running your tool as admin, all I get is error message. Maybe it is related to some network filters our company has and you are not able to connect with your url where file is? I will try running planner later at home. But I suppose you display question before you try to download a file from your site and I don't see any question so... yeah, sth is wrong. Or maybe it is just a quirk on my machine and if nobody else is complaining forget about it and focus on some new features or promotion of a tool.

And I completely understand that Evemon is little overwhelming especially when you are a newbie and don't really know about all those API keys and tiers and stack penalties and all shabang that is called Eve. For those ppl your skill planner can be really valuable so I am happy you have a will to create sth new for our great MMO.


This is weird.
I have Vista x32 at home and Vista X64 at work.
And in both case it is working properly.
Could be indeed something related to your work network.

Anyway, if anyone else has the same issue I will try to investigate further.
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#10 - 2012-04-03 00:49:36 UTC
Following a sugestion from Barlat I had added support for the Tech Level of each ships.
So you can see, sort and filter the ship by tech level.

The new version has been uploaded, so you can use the 'Update' option in the 'Help' menu.

As usual comments, bugs and suggestions are welcomed.
sk donation for support are welcome too. Cool
Techaru Risalo
The Organization of Fire and Steel
Elementium Alliance
#11 - 2012-04-06 20:47:58 UTC
I just wanted to let you know this is a neat little program and I got the same error when running the program not having ships.XML file I had to download it and then it works. Keep up the good work!
Just Alter
Futures Abstractions
#12 - 2012-04-06 21:29:14 UTC
A great program for any new player; probably better than eveMon itself.

Great idea.
If i were you i'd try to use a place more frequented by new players to increase its popularity; because,as you hinted, it's not too useful for more seasoned pilots.
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#13 - 2012-04-07 00:55:18 UTC
Techaru Risalo wrote:
I just wanted to let you know this is a neat little program and I got the same error when running the program not having ships.XML file I had to download it and then it works. Keep up the good work!


Thanks for reporting this.
I will investigate this issue asap.
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#14 - 2012-04-07 00:55:50 UTC
Just Alter wrote:
A great program for any new player; probably better than eveMon itself.

Great idea.
If i were you i'd try to use a place more frequented by new players to increase its popularity; because,as you hinted, it's not too useful for more seasoned pilots.



Thank you very much. Big smile
Any suggestion where I should post this ?
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#15 - 2012-04-09 12:34:24 UTC
I fix a bug reported by a few people that would show an exception when loading the tool.
It was complaining about not finding the 'ships.xml' file.

This is now fixed and the first time you start the tool it should correctly ask to get the file automatically.

The new version has been uploaded in the download section.
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#16 - 2012-06-08 13:00:16 UTC
I fixed the character selection to upgrade the ships grid so that it is automatically up to date when you switch between characters.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2013-01-04 10:12:49 UTC
Thread unlocked upon request. It was automatically locked due to inactivity.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#18 - 2013-01-05 01:28:34 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
Thread unlocked upon request. It was automatically locked due to inactivity.


Thank you CCP Phantom. :)
Ideki
Wolf Brothers INC
United Neopian Federation
#19 - 2013-01-05 01:28:41 UTC
I added the missing ships (27) and updated some (197).

27 new ships:

  • Reaper
  • Impairor
  • Ibis
  • Velator
  • Oracle
  • Naga
  • Talos
  • Tornado
  • Iteron Mark IV Quafe Ultra Edition
  • Iteron Mark IV Quafe Ultramarine Edition
  • Cambion
  • Etana
  • Iteron Mark IV Amastris Edition
  • InterBus Catalyst
  • Intaki Syndicate Catalyst
  • Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst
  • Quafe Catalyst
  • Aliastra Catalyst
  • Algos
  • Dragoon
  • Corax
  • Talwar
  • Venture
  • Sukuuvestaa Heron
  • nner Zone Shipping Imicus
  • Sarum Magnate
  • Vherokior Probe
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#20 - 2013-07-11 14:43:38 UTC
Unlocking as per request.

EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative ※ EVE Illuminati ※ Fiction Adept

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