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Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-03-20 15:46:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
Global warming stopped in the 90's. REALLY? Someone just turned it off, huh?

smh
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#22 - 2012-03-20 16:07:47 UTC
Astenion wrote:
Global warming stopped in the 90's. REALLY? Someone just turned it off, huh?

smh


Guess you missed the news....
Average Global Temperatures between the mid 90's and end of the last decade?
Standstill. No increase. Ever heard the phrase, "hide the decline?" Came out of 'Climategate'. Hacked email from a climate expert who couldn't explain this inconvenient reality, but was unhappy about the potential political setback it would bring for his favorite cause.

Glad I could fill you in. Guess I don't blame you, most of this stuff got very little attention from liberal sources such as NBC, CNN, or the BBC. Didn't fit their template and agenda, so it never happened. Thank goodness that FOX considered it newsworthy, so the story wasn't completely buried.
stoicfaux
#23 - 2012-03-20 16:36:12 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
Herr Wilkus wrote:

Guess you missed the news....
Average Global Temperatures between the mid 90's and end of the last decade?
Standstill. No increase. Ever heard the phrase, "hide the decline?" Came out of 'Climategate'. Hacked email from a climate expert who couldn't explain this inconvenient reality, but was unhappy about the potential political setback it would bring for his favorite cause.

Glad I could fill you in. Guess I don't blame you, most of this stuff got very little attention from liberal sources such as NBC, CNN, or the BBC. Didn't fit their template and agenda, so it never happened. Thank goodness that FOX considered it newsworthy, so the story wasn't completely buried.

Speaking of keeping up with the news, I guess you missed the study funded by the energy companies and the Koch brothers (big global warming opponents) that went over the climategate data and even checked on issues such as whether temperature sensor readings were thrown off by being in close proximity to airports, etc.. The study's analysis of the data confirmed the climategate results. The hockey stick is real. The only remaining "out" for climate change opponents is to find huge, undiscovered carbon sinks in the oceans.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2011/1021/Climate-study-funded-in-part-by-conservative-group-confirms-global-warming

Seriously, the data and the team have been investigated and vindicated multiple times. There's just not a lot of scientific wiggle room left for climate change opponents.


IMO, society as we know it is probably boned. I think that humanity as a whole is not going to take climate change seriously until either something dramatic happens or until the effects become very noticeable, such as permanent changes in weather, erratic growing seasons, loss of farmlands, or some coastal areas become submerged. But by then it will probably be too late, and we'll have to get busy moving/adapting our farms and cities to the new climate.

Also, I'm thinking that the US will absorb Canada as a means of securing the newly exposed Canadian and Arctic resources being exposed by the loss of ice/perma-frost, and also to have a large north-south landmass in order to maximize the chance of having arable farmland if climate changes turn US cropland into another dustbowl.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#24 - 2012-03-20 17:32:51 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Peak oil doomsday nuts must be crying in their lattes.


FFS CCP FIX YOUR FORUMS.


I had a nice long explanation written about how unbelievably stupid you are, and then the forum ate it. I guess I'll just have to stick with the nice short version: saying things like this just demonstrates your complete ignorance about the subject of energy production.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2012-03-20 19:37:48 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Herr Wilkus wrote:


-Global warming stopped in the 90's. Still waiting for an explanation why, but the hacked emails from the so called 'experts' have already told us they have no idea. Get with the program, Al Gore might have been a left-wing rock star 5-6 years ago, but he's a national joke now.



It did not stop in the 90s...

Those hacked emails did not provide any scientific info...

Al Gore is a moron.

Herr Wilkus wrote:
Thank goodness that FOX considered it newsworthy, so the story wasn't completely buried.


Nvm, you are either trolling or a moron.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2012-03-20 19:39:11 UTC
Merin Ryskin wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Peak oil doomsday nuts must be crying in their lattes.


FFS CCP FIX YOUR FORUMS.


I had a nice long explanation written about how unbelievably stupid you are, and then the forum ate it. I guess I'll just have to stick with the nice short version: saying things like this just demonstrates your complete ignorance about the subject of energy production.



The forum now saves your stuff Blink
Alara IonStorm
#27 - 2012-03-20 19:50:25 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

The forum now saves your stuff Blink

Not always. I lost a post today, lucky muscle memory made me copy it.
Pheusia
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#28 - 2012-03-21 13:53:01 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Obama's 13 year old daughter is apparently vacationing in Mexico - with a detachment of 25 Secret Service agents.

None of the stories were overtly political, mostly your typical slobbering Obama-vacation worship coverage, though a few uncomfortable themes emerge (ie massive expense to visit a region under a national travel advisory....)

And even if the political attacks were being made - Homeboy Prez trots out his daughters at the drop of a hat when it suits his propaganda needs.

The event was widely reported in the Mexican/Spanish speaking world, so as far as security is concerned, the cat was already out of the bag.

Yet, shortly after being posted the stories were all ordered taken down...... Without comment or explanation.

The Telegraph, Huff Po, IBL, Free Republic, The Austrialian, the list goes on and on.

Shows how easily this White House can control what we are allowed to know, and how easily Obama wields this power.

As much as I love making fun of those poor botting slobs in Putins' Russiaworld, I really wonder how much different our subservient Western media is these days.



A 13 year old child isn't a public person just because her dad is.
Pheusia
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#29 - 2012-03-21 13:54:00 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Astenion wrote:
Global warming stopped in the 90's. REALLY? Someone just turned it off, huh?

smh


Guess you missed the news....
Average Global Temperatures between the mid 90's and end of the last decade?
Standstill. No increase. Ever heard the phrase, "hide the decline?" Came out of 'Climategate'. Hacked email from a climate expert who couldn't explain this inconvenient reality, but was unhappy about the potential political setback it would bring for his favorite cause...



Aaaaaaand there goes any credibility you might still have had.
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#30 - 2012-03-21 13:54:43 UTC
Pheusia wrote:


A 13 year old public person isn't a child just because her dad is.


Fixed that for you.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2012-03-21 14:02:50 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Pheusia wrote:


A 13 year old public person isn't a child just because her dad is.


Fixed that for you.


U mad? Yeah u mad.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#32 - 2012-03-21 14:38:04 UTC
Yeah, I'm mad. But not about this thread. Another thread.

This thread is just for baiting lib-tards. One of my hobbies. (Stoicfaux excluded, of course.)
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#33 - 2012-03-21 16:52:20 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
This thread is just for making conservatives look bad with tinfoil hat bull****. One of my hobbies. (I can't wait until Obama wins.)


Fixed that for you.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-03-21 18:36:36 UTC
Remember when the Bush Admin wouldn't let the media show photos of flag-draped caskets coming from Iraq? And reporters in Iraq had to play by Pentagon rules and only show flattering stuff? No footage or photos of U.S. casualties or civilian casualties allowed. Right-wing or left-wing, power politics people want to control what's shown in the media. The only surprise is that we just let them do it.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#35 - 2012-03-21 18:40:30 UTC
I'll just leave this for you Wilkus since your source for news is Fox news.

http://i.imgur.com/h8NeV.jpg

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Selinate
#36 - 2012-03-22 00:55:55 UTC
It's sad that there is actually an appreciable amount of people in this godforsaken country who would actually agree with the OP....
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-03-22 01:35:42 UTC
Ah, if only the climate wasn't changing, the Earth was still a wide frontier, Rooster Cogburn was president, and we all lived in fiction land on the Ponderosa....
stoicfaux
#38 - 2012-03-22 02:08:04 UTC
Selinate wrote:
It's sad that there is actually an appreciable amount of people in this godforsaken country who would actually agree with the OP....

^^ This ^^.

I have no problem with the idea that people can be at the extreme ends of the political spectrum. However, it's turning into a case of "a lie told often enough and loudly enough, will be believed by enough of the people" situation.

Example: ObamaCare. The individual mandate is worrisome because it potentially sets a dangerous precedent with the government mandating a product. However, what do we get instead? Lies, damn lies, and made up statistics from people who should know better: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/mar/21/health-care-fact-checking/
/facepalm

Charles Manson, who tried to start a prophesied race war by committing several murders, is probably looking at today's political rhetoric/climate and thinking "Doh! If I had my own FoxNews, negative ads, and a super-pac back in the 60s, we'd be in the middle of the apocalypse right now!"

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-03-22 09:06:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Sidus Isaacs
Merin Ryskin wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Herr Wilkus posting more of his sensationalist BS with a touch of paranoia and conspiracy theorycrafting? How quaint.


This.

I'll be concerned when the "free press" pulls a newsworthy story because the president orders


Eh, have already been happening quite a while. Perhaps not too common that the president directly commands it (then again the president is not really all that relevant anymore either). But certain policy has prevented a lot of interesting news to be printed.

Edit: well, I guess there is a distinction between prevented publishing and pulling it. Still, I gotta wonder how anyone can take mainstream media seriously anymore.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#40 - 2012-03-22 09:15:31 UTC
Telegram Sam wrote:
Remember when the Bush Admin wouldn't let the media show photos of flag-draped caskets coming from Iraq? And reporters in Iraq had to play by Pentagon rules and only show flattering stuff? No footage or photos of U.S. casualties or civilian casualties allowed. Right-wing or left-wing, power politics people want to control what's shown in the media. The only surprise is that we just let them do it.


This is why a good bulk of the US army tuned into the BBC world service.

Alpheias wrote:


http://i.imgur.com/h8NeV.jpg


Straight
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