EVE General Discussion

So, you'd die if something doesn't have 100% efficiency?

Look at it this way. A laser turret can have a set amount of MW or GW in the name, and the reason for it not being the same as the PG requirements are the simple fact that you do actually need some power to turn the damn thing. The PG is simply what it takes to operate the entire gun, not the amount of energy it blasts out.

And to address the "issue" with AWU reducing PG need, lets just say that AWU gives some damn good lubrication in the joints of the gun, so you don't need as much power to turn it.

Personally I just want consistency between energy turret and laser turret. Pick one or the other, but change them all. Don't rename them all laser turrets, but have ships get bonuses to energy turrets, or the skill still refer to energy turrets.

This.

this exactly
immersion is probably the second thing after balancing that eve lacks the most atm


OT
ok here is your main problem whatever change you make MUST make sense with the model of the gun you rename
you can't make a gun a gatling that does not have more then two barrels

my idea for small pulse laser would have been to make dual light into light and then medium into dual light
but the model does not support that idea
same goes for small beams the dual light is visually double barreled


and this also goes for all other guns you can not make a dual into a single since the model does not match

I dont see what would be so wrong with having the laser names be denoted by the power output?

Small Beams could become: 10 Farad(or the symbol) Small Beam, up to a given power level to differentiate power differences.

If the smallest laser is (made up) 100 DPS and the biggest small laser is 200 DPS (again made up) why not have them become 10 and 20 farad respectivly? Something which numerically translates into size/power as a direct proportion of their effectivness.

Farad symbol = μF

10μF Small Beam Laser
350μF Large Pulse Laser
1250μF Mega Pulse Laser

etc etc etc.

We should be trending away from the ridiculous use of real-world technical terms in EvE, not towards even more of it. The farad is a unit of capacitance; why on Earth would you choose it to denote a difference in laser power levels?

Defense of Gatling Beam Lasers:

I saw a lot of you complaining that gatling beam lasers don't make any sense. Here, let me try and explain. Your typical handheld pocket laser runs a steady beam straight off of a slow-release battery. It can do this because it is a very low power laser. Now these laser weapons have their output facilitated by an individual capacitor mounted to each individual beam. This capacitor charges over an extended period of time (say, 3-6 seconds) and then can release that charge in a much shorter span of time to generate an extremely powerful but very brief laser beam. This laser beam has much more penetrating power than the same amount of energy spread out over the full time between shots, because concentrating the energy gives the target's molecules less time to distribute the energy and withstand the attack.

I'm just guessing here, but I would suppose the beam lasers are a pulse laser of sorts like the one I just described, while the lasers actually called pulse lasers fire in multiple short pulses with each capacitor charge, instead of one medium-length burst. You can see this in the firing graphic. The advantage of firing in multiple short pulses would be that you can concentrate the beam even more strongly within each pulse, without overwhelming the firing device or the frequency crystal. One might suppose that special crystals are required to withstand the pulse laser design, and that these crystals don't focus as well, hence the greater damage but shorter range.

So a gatling beam laser or gatling pulse laser would probably just be a laser with multiple crystal apparatuses which rotate and fire individually, giving each one a longer time to cool. Of course, rather than make things overly complicated, CCP made gatling lasers take 1 crystal to operate just like other lasers, and they made beam and pulse lasers use the same crystals. Just like how a 1400mm artillery and a 1200mm artillery fire the same ammo which incidentally is the same ammo that a dual 425mm autocannon fires.

Hope that clears things up.

No, it isn't. Go read the Wikipedia article on capacitance.

The only two units that actually make physical sense to measure something like this are the joule (energy) and the watt (power), and neither is suitable because the other is used elsewhere in the game. The solution is to go with an abstract (but still numerical) scale.

Gatling Lasers?
When you say it like that doesn't sound right I mean...
I imagine a tube like catalyst amateur with a gravity lens suspended at the point. The entire amateur spins about to cool the catalyst chamber down since a multiple barreled laser rotating to fire sounds a bit silly.

I mean I can understand keeping the dual barreled names because of the model.

Have you considered other names aside form Gatling like cascade? stream? strobe? flicker? I dunno something rapid and light/energy beam involved. How bout fractured? Split?

Modulated Split Light Beam Laser.

And solid state? That's low tech as far as I'm aware. Just turn heavy into medium and it will be fine.

If I had to pick something to say "Hey I'm rapid firing!" Strobe comes to mind. Really Bright strobes don't seem to burn your skin as bad as a constantly on lamp of the same intensity

-Vix