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Dust or Walk in Stations?

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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#21 - 2012-03-19 11:41:20 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:
Simple question... In addition to CCP's current focus on EVE gameplay, if CCP only had the resources to dedicate to one other feature/product, would you choose Dust 514 or Walk in Stations?


This is a difficult question to answer. What defines WiS? I can't easily compare that against Dust 514 which is almost a fully fleshed out product while WiS is still at the design stage. Is it the Captains' Quarters? Is it gambling, assassination, seedy brothels, black-market trading, EVE integration and all that? I can't tell what you think WiS is.

If WiS became a fully fledged game like Dust 514 with meaningful interaction with EVE Online and it had the type of publicity and support that Dust has, then WiS. Especially if they carry on with the player versus player competitive aspect of EVE in WiS.

If it is the way it is now, then Dust as it can bring in more revenue that can be used on other components of EVE Universe and it completments the concept of EVE Online very well.


Pretty much this, a couple of years ago it seemed that CCP had a clear idea what they wanted to make WiS but that never came about and it seems now that they're still trying to figure out how to make it relevant to the game as a whole rather than just walking around showing off avatars in fancy NEX clothing.

When we saw the video they showed at fanfest there was some hope that it would enhance current gameplay with 'going off the grid', black market and access to things that weren't available so easily otherwise, adding an extra level to the game, but that didn't matarialise leaving us with CQ which does very little to add to the game.

I'm totally ambivalent to both right now, I don't own a console and don't care for FPS games and WiS hasn't delivered on the promise they projected 2 years ago so I'm happy just flying ships and playing the game I joined EVE for.

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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-03-19 12:40:41 UTC
Thanks for all your comments.

I wanted to ask this question following a discussion with some of my corp/alliance mates last night. We were discussing Dust and and WiS and eventually arrived at a consensus that Dust will most likely have a short life due to the competitiveness of the console FPS market and that we have seen nothing to suggest any new groundbreaking gameplay.

Therefore most of us felt that, given the choice, we would prefer resources to be allocated to WiS as this would enhance the existing EVE experience if done right but ultimately FiS should be CCP’s main focus.
Jet Aeon
Two Smoking Barrels
#23 - 2012-03-19 13:27:47 UTC
Dust is what would be my choice!

While a completed WIS would be nice to see, I think it would get boring after a short while. I'm not sure what sort of long term satisfaction people expect to get from WIS. As for Dust, I think it's and interesting idea to mix the two different platforms and it should make for a much more interesting Eve with Dust game play influencing Eve strategy.
AdamiaMaxima
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-03-19 13:40:26 UTC  |  Edited by: AdamiaMaxima
Walk in stations yeah? My reasons..

I HAVE a MONOCLE SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW IT OFF!

End of dicussion.

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PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2012-03-19 13:44:32 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:
Simple question... In addition to CCP's current focus on EVE gameplay, if CCP only had the resources to dedicate to one other feature/product, would you choose Dust 514 or Walk in Stations?


This is a difficult question to answer. What defines WiS? I can't easily compare that against Dust 514 which is almost a fully fleshed out product while WiS is still at the design stage. Is it the Captains' Quarters? Is it gambling, assassination, seedy brothels, black-market trading, EVE integration and all that? I can't tell what you think WiS is.

If WiS became a fully fledged game like Dust 514 with meaningful interaction with EVE Online and it had the type of publicity and support that Dust has, then WiS. Especially if they carry on with the player versus player competitive aspect of EVE in WiS.

If it is the way it is now, then Dust as it can bring in more revenue that can be used on other components of EVE Universe and it completments the concept of EVE Online very well.


This thread ended with the above comment.

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Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#26 - 2012-03-19 14:32:42 UTC
I'd go WiS, but that is kind of a no brainer, I don't own PS and I do own a PC.

Honestly I'd rather have crewed ships (aka Walking in Ships) than any of this crap. I think it would be awesome to have 15 man ships with gunners, engineers, etc.

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Qen Tye
In Between
#27 - 2012-03-19 15:03:02 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
I'd go WiS, but that is kind of a no brainer, I don't own PS and I do own a PC.

Honestly I'd rather have crewed ships (aka Walking in Ships) than any of this crap. I think it would be awesome to have 15 man ships with gunners, engineers, etc.



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Another console FPS which on top interact with EVE ? no thank you.

I have some skirts and boots to show off, so WiS for me.

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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-03-19 15:13:52 UTC
AdamiaMaxima wrote:
Walk in stations yeah? My reasons..

I HAVE a MONOCLE SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW IT OFF!

End of dicussion.


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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-03-19 15:55:49 UTC
dust 514.
WiS is unusable alone in CQ let alone with 20-100 other people in an entire space station
maybe in 20 years when the average PC can handle it WiS will be revolutionary.
besides, dust was supposed to come out this summer.
Barakkus
#30 - 2012-03-19 17:31:08 UTC
I WANT TO PLAY DUST ON PC NAO! MAKE IT SO CCP!

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc

Yoma Karima
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-03-19 17:40:46 UTC
Can't we have both? i want get through that door and Dust514 just looks fantastic.

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Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-03-19 17:42:28 UTC


World of Darkness.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

mama guru
Yazatas.
#33 - 2012-03-19 17:42:45 UTC
Dust for PC.

EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.

Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-03-19 17:43:34 UTC
Yoma Karima wrote:
Can't we have both? i want get through that door and Dust514 just looks fantastic.


Sure but lets say CCP had a Heavy neutron blaster to your head and you had to pick one... Smile
Yoma Karima
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-03-19 17:49:50 UTC
well then Wis. Dust is already comeing out so i don't hve to ask for thatTwisted

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flakeys
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-03-19 17:58:48 UTC
As said before by many people i also have no warm feeling for either but with a gun against my head i'd say dust without a blink.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-03-19 18:20:09 UTC
DUST. But it's a good thing CCP can do both. It's too bad that there are too many players that think they have a say in the matter and won't shut up about it.

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Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-03-19 18:25:03 UTC
WiS. The PS3 will be obsolete in the next few years and FPSs have short shelf-lives. Every $$$ that Eve generates should be spent on Eve. :(
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-03-19 19:25:03 UTC
Hmm, walk in a tiny room with slower acess to features that can instantly be clicked on in the ship hanger?

Or something actually playable?

DUST all the way.

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-03-20 04:28:20 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
WiS. The PS3 will be obsolete in the next few years and FPSs have short shelf-lives. Every $$$ that Eve generates should be spent on Eve. :(


there will be dust support for the PS4

i also doubt that dust will have a short shelf live, if its balanced and fun to play people will play dust for years
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