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Tul Kezad
KULT OF KEZAD
#1 - 2011-09-10 00:26:23 UTC
Hi there, anyone been so brave and tested it yet?

http://www.winehq.org/news/2011090901

Lemme know :d
Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
#2 - 2011-09-10 01:02:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr M
1.3.28 here on Debian Squeeze. Catalyst -a few months

Transparent windows wrecks havoc on the framrate. With no windows I have 60FPS, with overview opened 45FPS. Not sure how it behavs in a fight. (Isn't this a really really really old bug?) Setting the GUI to transparency 0 or 255 works fine though. (REEEEAALLY OLD.) The browser still can't do SSL.

Seems to work fairly well. Haven't tried anything in the captains office though, that usually don't works for me at all.

Share your experience

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I DontLikeWhatYoureDoing
The Executioners
Capital Punishment.
#3 - 2011-09-10 03:40:06 UTC  |  Edited by: I DontLikeWhatYoureDoing
Just finished compiling 1.3.28 on ubuntu/natty. Seems to work the same as 1.3.27 so far. Still abysmal framerates post Incarna on my kick ass hardware. Sigh...

Still get jerky window movement anytime Mumble is running (with or without overlay enabled).

EDIT: Using catalyst 11.7
Miraqu
Kneipenterroristen.
#4 - 2011-09-10 06:33:24 UTC
Works on Debian Sid
NiwatiX
FATAL Inc.
#5 - 2011-09-10 08:08:04 UTC
working pretty well on Gentoo, having fun with it so far Smile
M1AU
Zappenduster Inc.
#6 - 2011-09-10 10:41:48 UTC
I DontLikeWhatYoureDoing wrote:
Just finished compiling 1.3.28 on ubuntu/natty. Seems to work the same as 1.3.27 so far. Still abysmal framerates post Incarna on my kick ass hardware. Sigh...

Still get jerky window movement anytime Mumble is running (with or without overlay enabled).

EDIT: Using catalyst 11.7


Still using 1.3.27 but I also got that nasty Mumble bug with jerky window movement.
Good to see I'm not alone there...
Miraqu
Kneipenterroristen.
#7 - 2011-09-11 08:39:53 UTC
I extensively tried to reproduce the issue with mumble but was unable to do so.

Mumble works exceptionally well with .27 and .28. No issues with or without overlay.


Debian Sid/ kernel 3.0.4
Nvidia 285.03 drivers.
M1AU
Zappenduster Inc.
#8 - 2011-09-11 11:08:24 UTC
Miraqu wrote:
I extensively tried to reproduce the issue with mumble but was unable to do so.

Mumble works exceptionally well with .27 and .28. No issues with or without overlay.


Debian Sid/ kernel 3.0.4
Nvidia 285.03 drivers.


It's really a strange bug, but I reproduced it quite well on my system.
As soon as the Mumble 1.2.3 client is opened, though not yet connected to any servers, moving windows within EVE is laggy/jerky. As soon as it's closed, everything in EVE works smooth again.
Actually I don't know where to start here, any thoughts?

Using default Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity and an Nvidia 8800 GTS 512.
Miraqu
Kneipenterroristen.
#9 - 2011-09-13 18:30:25 UTC
[quote=M1AU
Using default Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity and an Nvidia 8800 GTS 512.
[/quote]

Well I guess its either unity or pulseaudio.

I use xfce + compiz with alsa only.

Maybe you could try if that bug happens with gnome or some other DM?
Zenith Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-09-23 12:45:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Zenith Intaki
Wine 1.3.28 and Catalyst 11.8 in Ubuntu 10.04. I am pretty new to linux, but so far I have managed to install Command & Conquer 3 and Kanes Warth. Both are working, but FPS is worse than I had in windows.

Anyway, downloaded latest manual installation files for EVE and installed. Installation was ok. However when I try to launch EVE I only see splash screen and then it's crashing.

http://imageshack.us/f/683/eveproblem.png/

What could be the reason?

Also, by some reason, EVE didn't create prefs.ini at all.

Now I managed to do something, so it doesn't give that error message.

But still, splash screen just freezes and dies away, eve exefile goes zombie.

Can't get into character selection screen.
Zenith Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-09-23 23:19:28 UTC
Looks like that problem has something to do with vivox...according to logserver. After that loading stops, eve.exe hangs and dies. Some dll is missing, don't know wich...
Zenith Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-09-24 12:08:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Zenith Intaki
Okay had to update one single .dll file and up and running. Also turned audio off and deleted jukebox file, it seems that it is causing some kind of crash. But haven't been using audio in eve anyway.

Performance is crappy, 30-40 FPS at planet, looking to space. What?

Actually fixed audio too Big smile

Now just IGB and performance Roll
Tul Kezad
KULT OF KEZAD
#13 - 2011-09-24 15:31:24 UTC
1.3.29 updated today, fixed audio for me on Gnome

Awesome :)
Zenith Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-09-24 19:41:05 UTC
Tul Kezad wrote:
1.3.29 updated today, fixed audio for me on Gnome

Awesome :)

Hows overall performance?

I had stable 60 FPS (V sync on) in empty space when I was using Win7, now I get about 30 FPS in empty space.

Haven't tried any open source drivers.

3GHz, 1024 mb HD4850 radeon, 8gb ddr3, it's not really that good but it's okay. I guess that linux drivers are just crap?

But gaming isn't the only thing that I am doing in this PC, so I don't mind if performance is little worse. Noticed that older games run well.
Miraqu
Kneipenterroristen.
#15 - 2011-09-25 12:34:54 UTC
Zenith Intaki wrote:

Hows overall performance?

I had stable 60 FPS (V sync on) in empty space when I was using Win7, now I get about 30 FPS in empty space.
I guess that linux drivers are just crap?



Its sad but its not the drivers. What costs performance is the translation from DirectX (Windows graphics) to OpenGL. With OpenGL games you get the same performance as windows.

You might want to play with the graphics settings as some options cost much more fps under wine than under windows. Multisampling (Anti-Aliasing) especially.
Duncan Mileghere
S.T.A.R. Syndicate Germany
#16 - 2011-09-30 08:41:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Duncan Mileghere
Miraqu wrote:
Zenith Intaki wrote:

Hows overall performance?

I had stable 60 FPS (V sync on) in empty space when I was using Win7, now I get about 30 FPS in empty space.
I guess that linux drivers are just crap?



Its sad but its not the drivers. What costs performance is the translation from DirectX (Windows graphics) to OpenGL. With OpenGL games you get the same performance as windows.

You might want to play with the graphics settings as some options cost much more fps under wine than under windows. Multisampling (Anti-Aliasing) especially.


Hmm yet the ATI binary blobs are quite bad, with Catalyst 11.8 I have around 15 fps, all the time, with lowest settings. Also their 2D performance is - for some strange reason - weak beyond believe.

The Gallium3D drivers provide me with stable 60 fps, even in space.

On the other hand the Gallium driver has performance issues with many other games (Portal for example is unplayable).

If ATI/AMD would just fix that damn fglrx bug that is affecting Eve with wine.
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#17 - 2011-09-30 13:15:21 UTC
Miraqu wrote:


Well I guess its either unity or pulseaudio.

I use xfce + compiz with alsa only.

Maybe you could try if that bug happens with gnome or some other DM?



I'm not using unity. I am using alsa, but pulseaudio is still installed. Metacity is my compositor with gnome2.
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#18 - 2011-09-30 13:29:06 UTC
Duncan Mileghere wrote:

If ATI/AMD would just fix that damn fglrx bug that is affecting Eve with wine.


Which bug are you referring to?
Duncan Mileghere
S.T.A.R. Syndicate Germany
#19 - 2011-10-01 11:26:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Duncan Mileghere
I DontLikeWhatYoureDoing wrote:
Duncan Mileghere wrote:

If ATI/AMD would just fix that damn fglrx bug that is affecting Eve with wine.


Which bug are you referring to?


I don't have the link at hand but the very low fps with fglrx in Eve are related to a bug in fglrx itself. This was atleast the response to a bug report @ Wine.

This is also quite realistic, as Eve has much higher fps with the OSS drivers (Gallium3D), while fglrx is MUCH faster in many other applications.

That can be easily reproduced by yourself, too, by switching between the OSS and fglrx drivers.

There is btw a discussion about this problem going on, in the Phoronixforums. It seems that these driver problems are not affecting Eve only, but other games, too.

It seems that the ATI/AMD blobs are quite bad at direct rendering and have serious issues with OpenGL 2 support, also affecting many other games (like Unreal engine based games).

Many people recommend just buying an nVidia graphics card but for me the Gallium drivers are working better and better (using git to get the latest ones).
I DontLikeWhatYoureDoing
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#20 - 2011-10-02 07:26:39 UTC
I can say that fps was fine up until Incarna, or was it Incursion? I forget, when they mandated shader model 3. I haven't visited phoronix fglrx boards lately but II've also been meaning to try gallium again. Last time I did 3D was great but not having video overlay was a show stopper.
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