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A serious goons begging for mittens votes posting question

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Frying Doom
#81 - 2012-03-18 05:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Kitfox Mikakka wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:


It's a poster.

Like a propaganda 'Vote For Me' thing.

Maybe you have not seen them before?

Must be a United states thing to do with freedom of speech, as its illegal in certain parts of the world no I have never seen a campaign poster like that.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#82 - 2012-03-18 05:33:52 UTC
That's a pretty good campaign poster - simple with a memorable phrase.

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content

Bliswonowon
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#83 - 2012-03-18 05:35:53 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Kitfox Mikakka wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:


It's a poster.

Like a propaganda 'Vote For Me' thing.

Maybe you have not seen them before?

Must be a United states thing to do with freedom of speech, as its illegal in certain parts of the world no I have never seen a campaign poster like that.


I've been reading your posts and wrestling with Poe's Law, but now, finally, I see.

Well played, good sir.
Frying Doom
#84 - 2012-03-18 05:46:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Thank you. But to be completely honest I wouldn't have even bothered if I had realized that The goons were styling The Mittani after Hitler. I want no part of this. Apparently it blocks the name of the Nazi leader responsible for the deaths of over 15 million people.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Sidus Sarmiang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2012-03-18 06:12:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Sidus Sarmiang
Frying Doom wrote:
Thank you. But to be completely honest I wouldn't have even bothered if I had realized that The goons were styling The Mittani after ******. I want no part of this. Apparently it blocks the name of the **** leader responsible for the deaths of over 15 million people.



Ok. So pubbies are getting bent out of shape over the "One EVE, One Vote, One Chairman" quote because they think it is affiliated with facism. I'd like you to give me some links supporting this.

Here're a few examples of one man one vote one nation type things that I could find, but I saw none directly associated with a certain German leader aside from what you're trying to do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_man,_one_vote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FiYYHmm85Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4UNoECibYk&ob=av2n

So there's no direct link to a certain German dictator in any of that. To be precise, we based that quote off the third link, One Vision by Queen.

Now, I assume then you're trying to link us to him through the fact our corp name is GoonWaffe. Waffe translates as "force", Now, you're trying to argue that links us to that certain period of Germany, right? Bad news, the German air force is still named the luftwaffe.

A bad photoshop and one of our campaign posters does not Nazis make. You've just jumped the shark and are dragging yourself and your candidate into the truly crazy territory. If Issler has any decency at all, she'd tell you to shut up now.

Now onto another fun fact. Goons have been banned from the forums and the game for trying to link corps and alliances to a certain German political party. Lets see if the same applies to you.
Takashi Kaeda
Perkone
Caldari State
#86 - 2012-03-18 06:25:58 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Thank you. But to be completely honest I wouldn't have even bothered if I had realized that The goons were styling The Mittani after ******. I want no part of this. Apparently it blocks the name of the **** leader responsible for the deaths of over 15 million people.



That campaign poster was made by that crappy website, not by a goon.
Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#87 - 2012-03-18 06:37:46 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Thank you. But to be completely honest I wouldn't have even bothered if I had realized that The goons were styling The Mittani after ******. I want no part of this. Apparently it blocks the name of the **** leader responsible for the deaths of over 15 million people.



Reading your posts is like masturbating with a cheese grater - interesting at first and then mostly painful.

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content

The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#88 - 2012-03-18 07:16:25 UTC
It's been almost a week since a hysterical type has godwinned himself against the windshield of my campaign, smugly invoking of gigadeaths while cloaking himself in faux indignation over a ~spaceship election~, blind to his own hypocrisy.

~hi~

Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2012-03-18 09:42:21 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Thank you. But to be completely honest I wouldn't have even bothered if I had realized that The goons were styling The Mittani after ******. I want no part of this. Apparently it blocks the name of the **** leader responsible for the deaths of over 15 million people.


Dude, Issler isn't going to be your girlfriend just because you whiteknight her all over the forums.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Pheusia
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#90 - 2012-03-18 10:09:46 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Thank you. But to be completely honest I wouldn't have even bothered if I had realized that The goons were styling The Mittani after ******. I want no part of this. Apparently it blocks the name of the **** leader responsible for the deaths of over 15 million people.


Dude, Issler isn't going to be your girlfriend just because you whiteknight her all over the forums.


Maybe she'll just rack up a couple of "billable hours"....
Pheusia
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#91 - 2012-03-18 10:17:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Pheusia
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Raisa Mole
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#92 - 2012-03-18 13:58:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Raisa Mole
Issler Dainze wrote:
So looking at the huge number of pro mittens for CSM 7 goon posts I have a serious question. We know why goons support mittens and we can sure expect them to vote for him.

But does anyone expect non-goon aligned or non-pro-goon pilots to be convinced to support him by the pro goon posts?

It seems pretty unlikely to me and in fact the volume of them might have a backlash.

Not an attack, just a pondering about the expectations of the pro mittens brigade and maybe a request from the non-aligned player base as to the affect the pro mittens post had on their voting choice.

Just wondering...

Issler


It's pretty simple, really. I hate goons, I've been their enemy for a long time, and I dislike the attitude that they stand for, and the type of people they represent. I hate the ATTITUDE of the goons that Mittani leads, but that has little to do with his platform and the game design issues he stands for.

When you're talking about who will be most effective in actually getting CCP to listen to the CSM, and what type of issues they will be bringing forth, the Goon garbage doesn't matter. CSM5 finally brought the CSM out of useless joke status, and CSM6 really shone, and while that was a group effort, I think Mittens' efforts were a good part of that. His platform reads nearly identical to what my own list of issues would be.

And beyond that, actually reading some of the threads here, I've found it more and more difficult to sympathize with the opposition to him. Not only does the usual Goon trolling seem a little bit less than usual (though it's hard to tell), but frankly, I have yet to see a real honest, well thought out opposition to Mittani's platform. The only thing I've seen is a neverending stream of attacks on him and the Goons. Which, don't get me wrong, they are scum, but who cares?

In this venue, just as in real life elections, I really couldn't care less about the character of the candidate. I don't care if they spend their days saving babies from stampeding cattle, or whether they spend it on hookers and blow. I care about their stance on issues, and their track record for actually putting forth those issues and getting results. Mittani's track record is great, and the personal attacks do nothing but irritate me (just as they do in real life).

So, yeah, as dirty and unclean it makes me feel to agree with ANY Goon, the fact is, in this particular venue, Mittani makes a lot of sense.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#93 - 2012-03-18 17:28:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyris Nairn
Issler Dainze wrote:

Your responses representing the goons in my thread have been the best of the goons, you never trolled and offered real opportunities for real dialog. You could have let this run its course and I would have totally left this with me thinking of you as the most rational and awesome of the goons, but no, you in the end are just yet another goon lame troll.

I'm genuinely sad. I had hoped there was a goon worthy of serious respect... (besides Mittens)

Issler Dainze
The MIner's Friend
Dissapointed to not have a future of the goons friend!
CSM 7 Candidate

Hello space friend.

My entire posting history would like to have a word with you, and the "no true Scotsman" fallacy would like you to stop using it like the two-bit trollop you mistakenly believe it to be.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#94 - 2012-03-18 17:30:53 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
It's been almost a week since a hysterical type has godwinned himself against the windshield of my campaign, smugly invoking of gigadeaths while cloaking himself in faux indignation over a ~spaceship election~, blind to his own hypocrisy.

With all due respect, sir, the giga-prefix refers to billions, as in 10^9.

I think you meant to refer to MEGADETH.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#95 - 2012-03-18 20:03:08 UTC
Pheusia wrote:
Issler, I have a serious question for you:

How many votes do you think frying doom's insane posts have cost you?



Hard to guess the affect. He certainly has been aggressive and definitely doing this on his own. But this is the Eve sandbox and just as I don't strongly complain about the goon trolls I also don't think its my place to restrict free speech in the forums for anyone.

His activities will be just one more thing that will be part of the history of the CSM 7 elections.

Issler Dainze
Supporter of Free Speech
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#96 - 2012-03-18 20:07:39 UTC
And thanks to the folks that actually shared some real insight.

I find the whole thing very interesting!

Issler
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#97 - 2012-03-18 21:16:11 UTC
Raisa Mole wrote:
I've been their enemy for a long time


yes I can assure you that we fume with hatred towards you, highly relevant NPC alt poster

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#98 - 2012-03-18 22:21:06 UTC
I personally have constructed a rube goldberg device that rivals the schemes of wyle e. coyote in efforts to take down that most hated enemy of all goonkind, Raisa Mole.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#99 - 2012-03-18 22:45:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarryn Nightstorm
Arkady Vachon wrote:
That's a pretty good campaign poster - simple with a memorable phrase.


"Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Furher."

That one's pretty memorable too, for those of us who actually learnt our history from something other than TV and North American factory farms public schools.

Not cool, goonies. Not cool at all.

E: Yeah, I know, you scrubs'll have a field-day with me just Godwinning myself--Godwin's a douche, too, so **** him and his "law."

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#100 - 2012-03-18 23:06:43 UTC
Would you say that Godwin is literallyhitler?