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PI + Industry

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ohel elo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-03-16 23:14:38 UTC  |  Edited by: ohel elo
Hello. I'm looking to start working into industry. I've been reading around and it's somewhat overwhelming at first. I guess I just have some questions/concerns.

edit: I want to add this disclaimer; while profit is certainly nice, my goal here is to set up an industrial system that will last and be effective, mostly for my own entertainment and to benefit my alliance. I'm not really after fortune here.

First off, I have 4 accounts. My main is in a nullsec alliance, and I've discovered that there's a whole constellation with fairly good truesec that absolutely no one does PI in; only 3-4 jumps away from our home-system through jump bridges.

First off, I plan to start small and make P2 PoS fuels. Maybe make some ammo in industry. But, here are my plan and goals for approximately 1 month from now:

- Have 8 characters across the accounts (2 each) with all 4's in PI skills.
-Have those 8 characters using 5 planets each with an integrated, stream lined network producing PI goods within one month.
-Have a blockade runner in 3 weeks to move supplies from my constellation to our region's trade hub.
-Have a jump freighter trained and purchased with cyno alts set to Jita within 1 month.

So, essentially in one month I want my entire PI operation smoothed out and in full steam production.

What I need help on is what to produce. As I said, to start, I'll be working on POS fuels because they don't need to be exported. However, beyond that, I am unsure. What are some things to look for that will make more profit if I'm able to export to Jita? I plan to have the ability to produce P4 products...is that something worth exporting?

Secondly, I need help on production. I want to set up an alt corporation wtihin my alliance (which is allowed), to anchor POS's for production in my constellation, and, if possible, have my PI compliment the fuel for that/those POS's and the items I will be making. On a long term scale, I'd like to get involved in battlecruiser production as my alliance blows through those. However, short term I am thinking of ammo and T1 rigs.

I'd also like to be able to do research and invention in my POS(s). Is there a quick explanation to what exactly I will need to research, invent, and do production all simultaneously? Is it helpful to have more than one character doing this? Can someone also talk about the best way to mesh my PI with my production?
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#2 - 2012-03-17 00:28:59 UTC
As far as PI goes well POS fuel is nice and will always be in demand. Might not always be the most lucrative item. What I would do:

- produce POS fuel (can almost sell anywhere) or
- produce most lucrative P1/P2 items that can be produced on planets (get most profit) or
- produce P4 so I decrease the volume for hauling (I chose a P4 product depending on number and type of available planets) or
- go crazy and import massive amounts of P2 and convert them to P4 (profits you couldn't imagine, but at a price. lots of hauling and some bill ISK capital needed)

Making P2 on a single planet is the most lazy way of doing PI. Making 2 diferent P1 and combining them on planet 1 or 2 is more efficient, but requires more work.


Easy to make a decision(P2 production). Go to this page: Link. Now for example look at items that can be produced on Gas planets and compare the P2 prices of Jita. Produce the one that pays the most. Do you have bad planets? Well then make a compromise with price/extraction rate to get most profit from a planet.

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Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption
#3 - 2012-03-18 00:07:34 UTC

I really dislike the link you gave, so Im giving a different one because of personal taste.

PI Spreadsheet