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Vote Issler Dainze, the only Female in the election without a doodle.
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None ofthe Above
#41 - 2012-03-16 01:50:35 UTC
Karadion wrote:
So no evidence then. In other words, you did a red herring in order to detract from the point.


Pot...kettle..black.

I personally have no evidence and don't make the accusation that the Mittani does support RMT.

I make the observation that more people have posted evidence and the accusations about Andski's chosen candidate being a supporter RMT than of Issler, who Andski rather unfoundedly accuses.

In fact I'd say Andski's accusation is the red herring.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-03-16 01:54:17 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
Karadion wrote:
So no evidence then. In other words, you did a red herring in order to detract from the point.


Pot...kettle..black.

I personally have no evidence and don't make the accusation that the Mittani does support RMT.

I make the observation that more people have posted evidence and the accusations about Andski's chosen candidate being a supporter RMT than of Issler, who Andski rather unfoundedly accuses.

In fact I'd say Andski's accusation is the red herring.

Do you even know what that term is? Let me answer that question for you. No, you don't
None ofthe Above
#43 - 2012-03-16 01:58:22 UTC
Karadion wrote:

Do you even know what that term is? Let me answer that question for you. No, you don't


Perhaps the OP could provide a wikipedia quote to educate the both of us.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#44 - 2012-03-16 06:51:26 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
vote for issler if you support this

Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


As I've pointed out several times, social gameplay is the mother of emergent gameplay. It needs a minimal investment in infrastructure and can keep players amused like forever. Just hand out some tools and allow people use them. Organized gameplay is cool to have, NPC interaction is cool, but from a cost/profit POV there is nothing as effective as just let people interact through avatars. Throw in some "hologram" technology so they're not forced to be aboard the same station and ther you go. Now add some advantages to physically being there (I already suggested stuff like kissing, caressing, punching, slapping... or dancing, if CCP were up to a tough ball; i've been iterating on the dance concept and I am figuring ways so two players can syncronize their moves within EVE's 1 second server frames... I don't mean "hit dance emote, do silly moves", rather "press the right keys at the right time so the server is fed the right "combos" from both sides at the right time and plays the right animation... in my limited knowledge, nobody ever tried that online...)

Err, to the point, there are lots of things that can be done as tools for friendly social interaction. If someone wants avatar PvP, they may have it, as long as it is not shoved down the throat of every player. Stations are griefing free zones and should stay like that. The worst that can happen in a station is being scammed and that must stay like that.


Adaris wrote:
I would very much like if the short term focus for Incarna was on a three-fold approach:

- Avatar expression (emote system)
- Avatar customization (clothes, tattoos, hair styles, body elements etc)
- Avatar socializing (facilitating more avatars being in the same location as one another)

Customization, for the most part is stand-alone. Expression is tied to socializing though, so the issue with the graphical demands of having multiple avatars in the same location needs to be addressed. If we can get a system whereby the facility to invite a set amount of avatars to the same location is possible, then much has been achieved for future iteration.

I would talk about what type of environments and activities should follow these three themes, but that should be considered more long term, especially with just one Dev Team assigned right now.

I am unsure if the current team has the technical expertise to address the issues of having multiple avatars occupy the same CQs though, but perhaps the expansion of expression through emotes (likely through the chat system) could follow alongside the continued work on avatar customization.



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OK, I'm confused, what do a lot of quotes from someone else have to do with me?

Confused by a goon troll, I know, who could have seen that coming!!


Issler Dainze
Not Whoever is quoted in the text
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate
Botleten
Perkone
Caldari State
#45 - 2012-03-16 09:12:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Botleten
Jesus, you pathetic space nerd, stop fawning over the fact that you found a female online. You did, congratulations. Go get a girlfriend. Then you will realize that women aren't any more inherently intelligent than men. CSM should be based on merit and ideas. Like it or not, Mittani got **** done in CSM6, far more than CSM1-5 combined did. He's more than done enough to ensure another term as chairman, and I'm going to love seeing your continued tears once he is re-elected.

If this issler has the requisite support, she will get a seat. You are obviously a sad lonely male so it is understandable that you'd be motivated to vote for someone simply because they have a vagina, but creating a thread supporting her where all you say in the OP is that she's a female and CCP can turn her into some kind of nerd-attracting magnetic is highly demeaning and suggests that she has no valid ideas and only a vagina/pair of **** to offer. Although, admittedly, as a Mittani supporter I find it quite amusing that you're torpedoing the chances of the very candidate you claim to support. Please continue making threads where you talk about her gender while ignoring any ideas she may have.
Frying Doom
#46 - 2012-03-16 09:29:49 UTC
Botleten wrote:
Jesus, you pathetic space nerd, stop fawning over the fact that you found a female online. You did, congratulations. Go get a girlfriend. Then you will realize that women aren't any more inherently intelligent than men. CSM should be based on merit and ideas. Like it or not, Mittani got **** done in CSM6, far more than CSM1-5 combined did. He's more than done enough to ensure another term as chairman, and I'm going to love seeing your continued tears once he is re-elected.


Ok well first off I'm married. At no point have I claimed women are smarter than men. What I did say was that a woman is more likely to figure out what would make this game appealing to women than men. Frankly CSM6 only had the abilities it did due to the work done by CSM5 and most of what it got accomplished were already on the books in some cases for years. The fact that 9 months ago the EVE players were about ready to kill CCP meant they had to do things better and faster than the years before.

If the CSM should be based on merit and ideas what the hell is The Mittani doing on it. With his focus almost entirely on the Null sec. With thinking like that EVE has NO future.
Botleten wrote:
If this issler has the requisite support, she will get a seat. You are obviously a sad lonely male so it is understandable that you'd be motivated to vote for someone simply because they have a vagina, but creating a thread supporting her where all you say in the OP is that she's a female and CCP can turn her into some kind of nerd-attracting magnetic is highly demeaning and suggests that she has no valid ideas and only a vagina/pair of **** to offer. Although, admittedly, as a Mittani supporter I find it quite amusing that you're torpedoing the chances of the very candidate you claim to support. Please continue making threads where you talk about her gender while ignoring any ideas she may have.

Actually if you read threads rather than just spouting drivel you would notice that when I voted for Issler I referred to her as a him.
I wasn't aware Issler was female when I voted.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#47 - 2012-03-16 09:30:46 UTC
What does gender have to do with anything? CSM doesn't need affirmative action, it just needs people with good ideas.
Besides, we had Mynxee as CSM5 Chairwoman, didn't we? It's not like we're [the community at large] are trying to stop women from getting on the CSM... What?

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Frying Doom
#48 - 2012-03-16 09:52:33 UTC
I can't easily speak on the pros and cons of affirmative action. Not being from the United States our interpretation is different and then that changes state by state and in some states area by area.

I more worry about the future of EVE and if we keep going down our current path, CCP will realize it's a business not a club for internet using nerds, then our goose is cooked.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-03-16 11:11:33 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
Pot...kettle..black.

I personally have no evidence and don't make the accusation that the Mittani does support RMT.

I make the observation that more people have posted evidence and the accusations about Andski's chosen candidate being a supporter RMT than of Issler, who Andski rather unfoundedly accuses.

In fact I'd say Andski's accusation is the red herring.


You confirmed the validity of my accusations of Issler defending RMT - there is more /real/ evidence that Mittens is anti-RMT than otherwise. A bunch of pubbies bleating on the forums doesn't quite count as evidence.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Frying Doom
#50 - 2012-03-16 11:26:39 UTC
Andski wrote:
None ofthe Above wrote:
Pot...kettle..black.

I personally have no evidence and don't make the accusation that the Mittani does support RMT.

I make the observation that more people have posted evidence and the accusations about Andski's chosen candidate being a supporter RMT than of Issler, who Andski rather unfoundedly accuses.

In fact I'd say Andski's accusation is the red herring.


You confirmed the validity of my accusations of Issler defending RMT - there is more /real/ evidence that Mittens is anti-RMT than otherwise. A bunch of pubbies bleating on the forums doesn't quite count as evidence.

I see you are still dribbling about the same rubbish with no proof or even a statement from someone else to claim as truthful. Change the tune or are the goons so worried about Issler to need to sink this low.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-03-16 11:54:26 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
I see you are still dribbling about the same rubbish with no proof or even a statement from someone else to claim as truthful. Change the tune or are the goons so worried about Issler to need to sink this low.


our candidate is basically CSM 7 chairman now

your candidate probably doesn't have the votes for the bottom 7

yes we are "worried"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-03-16 11:56:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
pro-tip: if you want a free trip to iceland don't campaign for anything remotely related to incarna, the paste-eating vote is already too split up for you to compete

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Frying Doom
#53 - 2012-03-16 12:21:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Unlike apparently you and your leader. Who cares about going to iceland. We know The Mittani does that's why he wants chairman to guarantee his ride on a plane.

Issler cares about the future of EVE and its not 100% certain Mittens is chairman. I'm not going to say anything as silly as Issler is the new chaiman neither will I say The Mittani is either.

Frankly after reading all the hard work Issler has done on Wis and the long term future of EVE, bugger it if you need to call Issler a space barbie, Shut the hell up, if you need to cast slurs about RMT, shut the hell up. If you want to Drivel crap, Shut the hell up.

Clear?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-03-16 12:37:13 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Unlike apparently you and your leader. Who cares about going to iceland. We know The Mittani does that's why he wants chairman to guarantee his ride on a plane.

Issler cares about the future of EVE and its not 100% certain Mittens is chairman. I'm not going to say anything as silly as Issler is the new chaiman neither will I say The Mittani is either.

Frankly after reading all the hard work Issler has done on Wis and the long term future of EVE, bugger it if you need to call Issler a space barbie, Shut the hell up, if you need to cast slurs about RMT, shut the hell up. If you want to Drivel crap, Shut the hell up.

Clear?


I pointed out that your candidate is a moron. You're white-knighting a girl on the internet. You're nothing more than a sad lil paste eater with an extra chromosome.

Clear?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#55 - 2012-03-16 13:13:42 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Unlike apparently you and your leader. Who cares about going to iceland. We know The Mittani does that's why he wants chairman to guarantee his ride on a plane.

Issler cares about the future of EVE and its not 100% certain Mittens is chairman. I'm not going to say anything as silly as Issler is the new chaiman neither will I say The Mittani is either.

Frankly after reading all the hard work Issler has done on Wis and the long term future of EVE, bugger it if you need to call Issler a space barbie, Shut the hell up, if you need to cast slurs about RMT, shut the hell up. If you want to Drivel crap, Shut the hell up.

Clear?


Bolded, italicized and underlined the key point to this post.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Frying Doom
#56 - 2012-03-16 14:04:04 UTC
Andski wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Unlike apparently you and your leader. Who cares about going to iceland. We know The Mittani does that's why he wants chairman to guarantee his ride on a plane.

Issler cares about the future of EVE and its not 100% certain Mittens is chairman. I'm not going to say anything as silly as Issler is the new chaiman neither will I say The Mittani is either.

Frankly after reading all the hard work Issler has done on Wis and the long term future of EVE, bugger it if you need to call Issler a space barbie, Shut the hell up, if you need to cast slurs about RMT, shut the hell up. If you want to Drivel crap, Shut the hell up.

Clear?


I pointed out that your candidate is a moron. You're white-knighting a girl on the internet. You're nothing more than a sad lil paste eater with an extra chromosome.

Clear?

I know its hard to remember things a few lines up so I will restate it for you.

If you want to Drivel crap, Shut the hell up.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#57 - 2012-03-16 14:17:25 UTC
frying doom: against posting drivel crap, for hilarious irony

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Frying Doom
#58 - 2012-03-16 14:19:06 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
frying doom: against posting drivel crap, for hilarious irony

What no like? cheapskate Smile

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2012-03-16 15:23:27 UTC
Are you saying that a female with adrenal hyperplasia would somehow be less qualified for the CSM?
Carl Thunderthise
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-03-16 18:57:33 UTC
Andski wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
I see you are still dribbling about the same rubbish with no proof or even a statement from someone else to claim as truthful. Change the tune or are the goons so worried about Issler to need to sink this low.


our candidate is basically CSM 7 chairman now

your candidate probably doesn't have the votes for the bottom 7

yes we are "worried"



If Mittens becomes chairman it's an indictment of the stupidity of Goonsheep to vote as ordered. "Vote for ze party or you vill be shot and hung on ze vire as a varning to ze others!" Mittens claims credit for things that any CSM would have got good results with. Being chairman during the time that CCP had to go on bended knee to its playerbase and act humble was lucky for him, not caused by him. He might act like he whipped CCP into shape with what the players wanted, but truthfully CCP had to act humble after the Nex debacle. Whoever was on the CSM, the same thing would have happened.
I think it's very telling that Goonsmear are putting so much effort into dissing Issler. And very telling that Goons are pretty much the only people coming into the Issler threads to slag her off. I don't see everyone else in Eve complaining about her. I see a heck of a lot of hisec players talking about how she's got their vote.