EVE Fiction

In The size of EVE thread, I argued that The 1000LY proximity is most likely a programming artefact like stationary planets.

In the latest Patch Notes we see that Control towers in wormhole space no longer reveal distance in the Control Tower Management window.

This is some interesting implications, especially when tied in with some rather oblique references in Templar One, which I've not seen mentioned here yet.

I think the evidence is building that New Eden is part of a Multiverse, that the classes of wormholes are separate universes with different Cosmological Constants

If Anoikis systems were distant parts of this universe, the quantum entanglement would still work. This change removes a significant blocker that repeated stifled this conversation in the past.

Consider the Talocan's expertise in Hyper-Euclidean geometry, this is the mathematical model used to describe Muti-dimensional space. This establishes that multi-dimensional universes exist within Eve physics. A Minkowski space is a three dimensional-space with an fourth dimension of time and could be considered Hyper-Euclidean. This is part of the Poincaré group.

A 'point defect' is another name for as Cosmic string these are the fundamentals of Brane cosmology and Membrane Theory, a theory of multi-verse.

In this model, wormholes are separate from black-holes which is consistent with Einstein-Rosen Bridge, which coincidentally appears as spheres in 3D space, not 'holes'.

In Templar One we can see that the Loci of Anoikis systems are references to Quasars without ascension.

When used as a clock they they are two dimensional suggesting a Riemann Surface with wormholes as perhaps Brane Defects (1)(2)(3)

Further reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotropic_coordinate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minkowski_spacetime

MULTIVERSE COSMOLOGICAL MODELS

Templar One clearly states two things:

A. The nearest recognizable objects were quasars (the oldest objects in the universe, and some of the farthest).
B. Without Fluid Router technology, there would be no way to communicate between New Eden and the uncharted systems.

This suggests that w-space is far, FAR removed from New Eden. How far? Most likely NOT within 120,000 light years (the diameter of the Milky Way). It would most certainly be more than 1,000 light years. Hence the idea that W-space is in another galaxy, in another part of the universe. For reference, it would suggest that it was so far that only these distant radio sources (quasars) were observable; a quite astounding realization in and of itself, considering these objects are billions of light years away from our own Milky Way.

I also seriously doubt that it is in another universe altogether; the fact that quasars are used as a common landmark pretty much seals it.

In short: the location of W-space is supposed to be "unknowable", insofar as it can be said to be somewhere other than close to New Eden (meaning far greater a distance than 1,000 light years).

So Quasars are used as navigational beacons.

This raises the question 'what is the purpose of Talocan Polestars?'

The evidence isn't really "building" that EVE is part of a multiverse. It is explicitly stated in the T1's opening scene: "several dozen traces of parallel universes pass through the ship every second."

These traces are coming from the EVE Gate, site of a naturally occurring wormhole. The Anoikis can be in parallel universes without contradicting the fact that distant quasars are points of common reference. Parallel universes may differ from ours in the resolution of certain events, while retaining similarity in others.

Damn, I need to read Tempar One. Wormholes not even in the New Eden Cluster? Wow.

Everyone in New Eden are technically "Terrans". Sleeper technology is referred to as "Terran".

Caldari, Gallente, Amarr, Minmatar... all technically Terran. Jovians? Terran. I think what you're referencing is pre-Collapse Terran society, in which case they would also be "Terran".


Quasars are used for navigation simply because you can accurately use them to triangulate position in relation to another object based on the known position of the quasars.

For reference: GPS using Quasars

Simply put; combining Quasar navigation techniques with a more localized navigation beacon system (like the various sites in Sleeper space; radar, ladar, magnetometric, gravimetric) you can accurately determine your location not only within the cluster, but in relation to other objects in Sleeper space.

To be honest, it just doesn't make sense to remove the distances, because given the information in Templar One, it's actually unbelievable that this information isn't widely available currently. The data should easily be determined by the onboard systems, if they're sensitive enough to detect quasars, and "modulation navigation" techniques are used by probes in-game.

But you know, for the sake of narrative, I could overlook that major scientific inconsistency. I just think that the "science" bit just blew up the "we don't know exactly where this is" argument, because yeah... any halfway intelligent scientist in New Eden really should know where "Anoikis" is if they had access to Capsule navigation data.

That's just my opinion though, no need to go spreading it around.

It's this logic that makes New Eden and Anoikis a dichotomy and that leads me to conclude they are different universes. Or at the very least that far away that even Quasars are beyond the visible Galactic horizon.

Quasars are the nearest recognizable objects to onboard navigation gear. These are accurate enough to use as location identifiers in relation to "Anoikis" systems. The point being, the quasars are identifiable by onboard navigation systems, while other features are not. Fairly straightforward so far. That makes quasars a good reference point for New Eden explorers, but that's not the end-all and be-all of evidence of "we should know where Anoikis is". Given that this information is stated in a CONCORD report... and CONCORD having access to Capsule navigation data...

Well, let's move on, because there's a lot of evidence to put out here.

You've got a good point with the observable universe link. My counterpoint:

Sleeper Data Library



There are Pulsars in Anoikis; this would allow for accurate navigation within the star clusters of Anoikis. Multiple forms of in-system signal sources (exploration sites) for accurate in-system navigation. EVERYTHING I see points to there being no excuse for not having accurate maps of Anoikis, and only one source that absolutely, without a doubt, would have a reason to keep this information hidden (aside from narrative purposes):

CONCORD controls the data available.

I could even, stretching my own suspension of disbelief, accept that the exact location of Anoikis in relation to New Eden is unknowable. Not having accurate maps, and not understanding the structure of Anoikis or having access to such information, kind of breaks my immersion. Unless that is the very point that is made in the Anoikis chronicle; that there's enough evidence to suggest that someone is keeping said information hidden for a reason, and that this information is vital in some way.

Which, in my opinion, is quite likely.

Further, if you take all of this evidence into account as well as certain Meta knowledge, there's only one logical conclusion to make as to the location of Anoikis, though if this is actually the intent of CCP I would be utterly and completely shocked:

Anoikis is the other side of the EVE wormhole.

While it is possible that Anoikis is in another part of the multiverse, it is more likely that New Eden and Anoikis just can't observe each other due to being on opposite sides of the universe. Given that quasars recognizable to onboard systems are used as system names (the implication being that these are commonly observed landmarks to both New Eden and Anoikis), I just can't accept the "multiverse" theory. There are more reasonable interpretations of the data.

I had a long post written, but I decided against posting it. I'll simply say this:

There is only one way any reference to "Terrans" makes sense, and that is in reference to Human settlers from the other side of the EVE Gate. Early human settlers (aka "Terrans") of New Eden, whatever their nationality, creed, race or religion. Sleepers, Talocan, Yan Jung... all Terrans. Tau Ceti settlers arriving in New Eden would be "Terran".