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Angel Extravaganza Bonus Room lvl 4
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Sunviking
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-03-14 16:22:47 UTC
Hi,

Recently started attempting this final room in the mission.

I don't know about everybody else but I have found it incredibly tough, and often have to warp out more than once, something I am not used to doing.

My HAM Tengu cannot take it in one attempt, so far the only way I have managed this in a single attempt is by fitting a Large Cap Booster to my Torp Golem, which requires a fitting mod in the lows to accomodate. And I used up 25 Cap 800 charges, meaning I couldnt really loot or salvage this mission without redocking and coming back. I also find my Javelin Torps are out of range of most of the senties/missile batteries when I arrive in the room, and Torps are a bit rubbish against the OP angels rats anyway.

Do other people have this same problem?

What are your own experiences?

Any tips for completing this in a better way?

Help much appreciated...

- Sun
Darrow Hill
Vodka and Vice
#2 - 2012-03-14 16:26:36 UTC
The bonus room is downright easy in an HML Tengu.

The EFT dps of HAM's look great on paper, but in practice you sacrifice too much range to be of real benefit.
Fairhand
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-03-14 16:42:12 UTC
I assume you have read the comments on the mission in eve-survival.org to see what fits have been suggested for the bonus room?

I agree that it is a toughie and in my T2 armour-tanked Dominix I too have had to warp out and in a few times till I can reduce the incoming damage.
Sunviking
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-03-14 16:44:45 UTC
Fairhand wrote:
I assume you have read the comments on the mission in eve-survival.org to see what fits have been suggested for the bonus room?

I agree that it is a toughie and in my T2 armour-tanked Dominix I too have had to warp out and in a few times till I can reduce the incoming damage.


Yes, I read the Bible on this mission Smile
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#5 - 2012-03-14 16:59:38 UTC
Honestly, I don't think I struggled much in my raven. Also, I recall a blaster rokh worked well enough. I vould pop the closer BSes to reduce incoming dps, then work my way out. It may not have beenthe fastest, but it worked with no stress.
Oweim
Defying Vision
#6 - 2012-03-14 17:16:51 UTC
Had not run the bonus room in a long while, helped a friend do it in his Myrm couple days ago and we had no dificulties. I will say though we waited to trigger the bs wave, just to be safe. Kill the turrets first and foremost after that you should be ok tanking the room, my other toons Drake can handle the damage no problem.
Arrs Grazznic
Poena Executive Solutions
#7 - 2012-03-14 17:44:21 UTC
As above, take out turrets first and don't trigger the reinforcement BS wave and you should be OK.
Lucas41
SOMACOM
#8 - 2012-03-14 17:52:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas41
Darrow Hill wrote:
The bonus room is downright easy in an HML Tengu.

The EFT dps of HAM's look great on paper, but in practice you sacrifice too much range to be of real benefit.



I have run that mission a few times sometimes solo, sometimes with a friend. T2 HML tengu should have little difficulties with this room. Do some kiting to keep dps low if necessary.

Can you post your tengu fit for me?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#9 - 2012-03-14 18:12:33 UTC
Assuming max gank and no problems applying damage, HAMs require 5 seconds to equalize damage for every second they are out of range. Even this is misleading because HAMs will have more trouble applying damage.

As already stated, just use HMLs.
Kehro Urgus
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-03-14 19:31:12 UTC
I've only done it once, in an Ishtar. Was actually very easy and didn't need to warp out. AE isn't one of my favourites though and I wasn't all that impressed with the payout for doing one more pocket in a long boring mission.

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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#11 - 2012-03-14 22:28:08 UTC
Switch to HMs from HAMs--you need range in that room, plus take out the guns first, this will reduce the high-omni damage to mostly explosive/kinetic. (Do some of the BS fire EM or Thermal missiles, though? Been a while since I've done that one.)

But yeah, range and speed to keep it are key in that one, or it will hurt a lot.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-03-14 23:24:56 UTC
stick an AB and HMLs on your tengu.
then all you need to do if hit the AB, hit orbit @ 80km on a random structure and pretty much go afk.

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drdxie
#13 - 2012-03-14 23:35:11 UTC
I have no problems solo in a HML tengu. I don't even have an AB fitted, some may say I am overtanked with a large SB, but hey still have six launchers and am cap stable.. and never have had to run. I don't not watch spawns.. that's for cookie cutter pilots Twisted

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Lady Aja
#14 - 2012-03-15 01:04:11 UTC
I can do this in my nightmare I just choose to avoid the AE missions as I am trying ( very slowly at that ) increase my angel cartel standings to 9.99

i take out the towers 1st and let my frigs take out any frigs etc last to go as the bs's
I never warp out on this one.
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!
SexTrader
LOst BrotherhoOd
#15 - 2012-03-15 02:24:14 UTC
I've done it lots in my Navy Scorp. I don't worry about triggers and have never even thought about warping out. Very easy.
Cindy Marco
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-03-15 03:54:40 UTC
You really need to take out the guns and missile batteries first. After that the mission is easy to tank.
Fozzy Dorsai
Friendly but Irritating
#17 - 2012-03-15 04:13:16 UTC
I normally run a Tengu in AE, including the bonus room. The key with a Tengu, always, is to not get webbed. Thus, when I land in the bonus room, I run at an angle away from the hoard, and make the webbing frigates my primary. After that, I just circle something. Ditto all the previous commends about using heavy missiles.
Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-03-15 05:52:04 UTC
I would like to see some good Tengu fits for AE bonus room. The following is my Tengu fit I've tried so far. It has of course no trouble with room 1 to 5 but the bonus room is quite tough and I sometimes have to warp out. Even when I don't have to warp out, I can hardly say it's easy (shield goes down to 20% or something lol. Much much easier and faster with my CNR). I don't want to change my rigs but any other changes to it wont be a problem.

This is what I do in bonus room : I warp in, kill 2 webbing/scramming frigates, pop 3 cruise sentries, start shooting at sentry IIIs and by the time I popped 2-3 sentry IIIs, I usually have to decide if I'm going to warp out or not.

[Tengu, Tengu]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
10MN Afterburner II
Photon Scattering Field I
Explosion Dampening Field II
Explosion Dampening Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

Suggestions for fit, tactics are appreciated Big smile
Zombo Brian
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-03-15 06:26:24 UTC
seriously? the only thing you need to know is that heavy thermal damage is added in the bonus room, and the thermal missile bays are prime target to reduce damage, i did this in a maelstrom, far from being good skilled and didnt have to warp out at any time
Lemok Sonji
Lethal Devotion
Escalation Theory
#20 - 2012-03-15 06:30:03 UTC
I have done the bonus room several times solo with my HML tengu without any problems.

As you warp in, start flying away from the rats to gain some head start. With an AB you can easily get away from the towers range very quickly.
Fit normal heavy missiles, kill the frigates and snipe from over 80km away anything which can web you first, and than its a piece of cake.

I'm running a similar fit as the poster above me, except I'm using a gist c-type medium shield booster and a simple omni tank (not mission specific).

HAM forces you go get closer to your pray, which means the more incoming damage.
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