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I'm Really Not Sure This Is The Game For Me Anymore.

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Estrelita Nobunaga
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-03-14 14:09:08 UTC
I've been playing for nearly 3 years, and have 4 accounts now

I've lost between 50 and a hundred ships all together

Yesterday this character qualified for a Mackinaw, so I fitted one for her and she went ice mining in Agal with a Mammoth for hauling. She didn't even finish a cycle before the Mackinaw was gone and the Mammoth was at 80% armor

I guess I was lucky that Concord responded so quickly

I'm not sure that I've ever been ganked before, but, for some reason, this bothered me more than any other ship loss that I can remember

The other character involved was from 2005, and had a 2.1 Concord sec status. Probably had a lot of experience doing this kind of thing, because he/she/it was pretty slick

There are parts of this game that I enjoy. PvP isn't one of them. Especially not this type

So what options do I have? One week of kill rights. That's a big help for a miner. If I went looking for the ganker, what are the chances that I could catch up to him, and, if I did, I doubt that there would be a happy ending for me

So I'm not sure I'm going to keep playing. It seems to me that the game has changed since I started playing, and that the type of player that it attracts is changing, too. That part I blame on CCP. I think they have more control over the type of player the game attracts than most people think. But, let's face it. They do have to make a profit in order to support Hilmar's grand schemes

The question for me right now is: Do I want to try to keep playing the parts of the game that I like in spite of the quality of the other players

As I said. I really don't know. I do know that losing 4 more accounts is not going to have any noticeable effect on CCP, and that what I say in this is not going to have any effect on the players that I object to

This is the only public way that I have to express my dissatisfaction with the players and the trends I see. It's not the game. It's the players.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#2 - 2012-03-14 14:13:44 UTC
sorry for your loss

it's the same playerbase its been since the start

be more aware and you won't get ganked in highly publicized interdiction ops

also be glad it wasn't a hulk
Lt Angus
Goat Herders
#3 - 2012-03-14 14:14:05 UTC
You been lucky to avoid getting ganked until now but really the game has always been like this
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
#4 - 2012-03-14 14:14:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Ana Vyr
CCP's in a bit of a bind in that if they now institute anti-ganking rules of any kind in an attempt to hold onto players like you, they'll lose subs in droves when all the sociopathic tear harvesters quit in disgust.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#5 - 2012-03-14 14:15:03 UTC
Sounds like you probably need to dabble on how to kill other players. I hgihly recommend rolling an alt whos sole purpose is to kill other players.

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-03-14 14:15:23 UTC
If you've just now been suicide ganked you've been playing this game correctly right up to that point.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#7 - 2012-03-14 14:15:29 UTC
Quit
3 months
If you don't find anything else that you enjoy. Come back. It's usually 3 months when they hand out a 5 day return.

Griefers want to put the run to us, CCP don't seem to have any desire to stop them. Play along.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-03-14 14:16:30 UTC
i'm sorry that your "end-game" is mining ice in a mackinaw

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Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-03-14 14:20:57 UTC
Maybe after 3 years you need to change profession?
Mining? Seriously? X

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Andrea Griffin
#10 - 2012-03-14 14:23:52 UTC
Quote:
So what options do I have? One week of kill rights. That's a big help for a miner.
Stop playing the victim card.
Mr John22ta
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-03-14 14:24:42 UTC
Ana Vyr wrote:
CCP's in a bit of a bind in that if they now institute anti-ganking rules of any kind in an attempt to hold onto players like you, they'll lose subs in droves when all the sociopathic tear harvesters quit in disgust.


CCP has already introduced "anti-ganking" incentives in the removal of insurance for those that are killed by Concord. This is as far as they will go, as they both encourage and support these types of behaviors. The reason they support it is because it's part of what make's Eve Eve. CCP isn't "in a bind" because of this, if anything it's due to the "softening" of the game through things like PVE and Barbies in space.

To the OP - It happens, deal with it and move on or don't and quit. This sort of thing happens daily, and just like in RL sometimes you get **** on. As a player of four years, I'm more than surprised this is the first time you've been affected by this. I'd say get over it and keep on trucking, one of the main points of this game is uncontrollable stuff happens, and how you learn, adapt and overcome to emerge a stronger player is what makes Eve so addicting. If you don't feel that way, this might not be the game for you. GL and remember it's just pixels, you can always come back from it. Cool
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#12 - 2012-03-14 14:25:09 UTC
I mean seriously the quicker you learn how to stop being a victim the beter this game gets.

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Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-03-14 14:25:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Sasha Azala
EVE is not safe even in high-sec, but I'm sure you've heard that before. EVE is essentially a PvP game, you don't have to PvP in EVE but you're always a potential target.

Type of player I don't think has changed that much, peoples attitudes have changed more I think. Especially with the anti-botting movement.

Ice mining is one of those targeted professions so it's no real surprise you lost the ship. Although you don't mention if you were semi-afk or not. I used to mine semi-afk years ago, although I certainly would not do that now, but I no longer mine anyway.

You've lost over 50 ships already, yet this loss bothers you. Why is it so different to the others? A loss is a loss regardless how it happens.
Alaura Aquila
Sarz'na Khumatari
#14 - 2012-03-14 14:28:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Alaura Aquila
I guess you were in the wrong place and the wrong time, once I went to let the dog out while mining and came back to a fleet of flashing red Thrashers coming in on top of my Hulk. I remember trying to rush to my seat and activate my hardners, but I was too late. The irony was, I was sitting there the whole time ready to do that, and that one time I got up, was when they struck. Talk about bad luck.

Here's the killmail:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10749118

Yes, I should have had buffer, prob would have saved me.
Seb Seba
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-03-14 14:28:27 UTC
Red Templar wrote:
Maybe after 3 years you need to change profession?
Mining? Seriously? X


It's fun how some of you believe that the game YOU play is the right one.
I guess that's why it's so easy to tell who's a RL looser just by reading one sentence.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#16 - 2012-03-14 14:29:52 UTC
anyone else find it highly ironic that the OP took the last name of one of Japan's greatest WARlords to shoot rocks for 3 years?
Pirate
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-03-14 14:32:42 UTC
Estrelita Nobunaga wrote:
There are parts of this game that I enjoy. PvP isn't one of them. Especially not this type


Eve is PvP. That's why the ganking mechanic exists. Even in the safest place in the game, you are not 100% immune when you are undocked.

Deal with it or find a game that you like better. Eve is a niche game, and doesn't have to be for everyone, nor is there anything "wrong" with someone who doesn't fit into that niche (though you're unlikely to be someone I'd like to have a beer with if you can't handle having your space pixels blown up).
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#18 - 2012-03-14 14:34:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Seb Seba wrote:
Red Templar wrote:
Maybe after 3 years you need to change profession?
Mining? Seriously? X


It's fun how some of you believe that the game YOU play is the right one.
I guess that's why it's so easy to tell who's a RL looser just by reading one sentence.


I can't say it any better either than these 2 simple statements....Smile

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2012-03-14 14:36:07 UTC
can i get your stuff? Shocked

People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back -  EvE

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#20 - 2012-03-14 14:37:39 UTC
Morganta wrote:
anyone else find it highly ironic that the OP took the last name of one of Japan's greatest WARlords to shoot rocks for 3 years?
Pirate



Would it be funnier if her name was sun'tzu?

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