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Nice Going CCP - Goons will rule for ever with your help
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Smiling Menace
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-03-14 18:07:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Smiling Menace
I think you guys are being too critical of the OP. I can feel his pain.

So, how about helping this poor chap out, Gewns?

I suggest to help them 'compete' post-Titan nerf, you should give them some of your noobs or pets. WI(dot) or TEST might help them achiev...oh wait, maybe not. Lol
WARBRO
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2012-03-14 21:41:12 UTC
As the universe of eve has shown over and over the super huge alliances can't last. Typically they implode due to internal strife, boredom at having no good fights and general malaise. I for one welcome our new goon overlords. Look at BOB, Atlas, and even goons 18 months ago. So please OP, sit down, shut up and go back to high sec.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-03-14 21:46:27 UTC
WARBRO wrote:
As the universe of eve has shown over and over the super huge alliances can't last. Typically they implode due to internal strife, boredom at having no good fights and general malaise. I for one welcome our new goon overlords. Look at BOB, Atlas, and even goons 18 months ago. So please OP, sit down, shut up and go back to high sec.



+1

@OP
To grow in numbers you might as well start by spare some isk instead of keeping it for you and only your good friends.
You cry about a shot you gave your self right between the eye, suck it up and become a better man than you are today because your shameless tears are just delicious.
Diomidis
Pod Liberation Authority
#24 - 2012-03-14 22:19:33 UTC
EVE is too "defensive" a lot of years now...

Leaving nothing to chance - its 99% "if I cannot win without losing a single ship of my gang I won't fight", and making more and more blob friendly is too boring...boring even for the blobs, though they won't admit it - they prefer spending hours forming up to get 1/20 the kills vs. fleet size, than having fun roams with less people, more variety, more risk.

That's fine on one hand, should CCP wasn't trying to sell the variety/sandbox moto so hard...

You have to conform to very strict rules to beat the above mentality, and usually it ends up being a mammal (us, the predators) vs. reptile (the silly blobbing turtles) fight - the cold-blooded turtle will out-last your patience and win the "Fight", by not giving it.

"War does not determine who is right - only who is left." -- Bertrand Russell

Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#25 - 2012-03-14 23:40:08 UTC
Go Goons!

"DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini "Gloomy Gus is literally a pocket" - Krixtal Icefluxor (former EVE Online player)
Ganthrithor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-03-14 23:46:42 UTC
It's me, I rule.
SpaceSquirrels
#27 - 2012-03-15 01:30:02 UTC
Um I dont see how small alliances can afford to blob supers...yet major ones can't?,,, Or dont? Assuming this were true wouldnt they just figure it out stop using massive small fleets and just blob supers or dreads to counter? They certainly have the resources to make the needed tactic change.
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#28 - 2012-03-15 02:51:14 UTC
Sapegu wrote:
So,

How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance?
If Biggest guns are nerfed...
1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!!

This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures...

Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV...

CCP... WAKE UP!!!


1) The CFC have more titans than you think they do and it might surprise you to find this out but *their* titans got the same nerf yours did..... With this one weapon becoming less over-powered against subcaps you'll just have to learn how to pvp in other ships. I know it's going to be a big adjustment but -A- beat you with conventional tactics and believe it or not, those are skills that can be learned.

2) The biggest mistake a corp or alliance in the game can make is to believe that they have something to lose. The most successful alliances are the ones who move, develop and change as the game develops. You've lived in those back water systems (or at least your bots have) for so long that it's hard for you to imagine a new type of game where people actually roam through your space and you have to fight them. The reason Goons win a lot of fights isn't because they bring big numbers (ok, not ONLY that) but because they've been learning to fight while RA has been picking fluff out of it's collective navel.

What's going to happen now that -A- kicked you out into Querious is that you're going to have to learn how to play the game in a new way. That's a fact and you're just going to have to adjust to a new reality.

And frankly, I wouldn't worry about Goons. Every time one alliance gets too big, others band together to make sure it doesn't become a permanent problem. Every super-alliance in this game has had it's ups and downs (including Goons) and that's not going to change at all because titan tracking was adjusted. Eventually you'll learn how to fight without them and win.

T-
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-03-15 02:57:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyniac
Sapegu wrote:
How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance?


Sun Tzu wrote:
Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance.


We're talking about goons here - shouldn't be too difficult.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-03-15 03:03:19 UTC
black thorne alliance shitbird quoting ~Sun Tzu~

this thread can only go uphill

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Annihilatus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-03-15 03:14:06 UTC
More tears from titan pilots...

The intended role is anti capital, not anti everything... atm the leviathan is the only one that works as intended, due to missiles not being able to hurt small things very well at all.

Stop crying, titans are still going to hold a large place in battles...

P.S it will be nice to log onto sisi and not get raped by tracking titans at every CA, though my poor carrier will likely still be dded every time =p
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-03-15 03:33:48 UTC
Andski wrote:
black thorne alliance shitbird quoting ~Sun Tzu~

this thread can only go uphill


See? Told you it would be easy.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#33 - 2012-03-15 03:37:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
Um I dont see how small alliances can afford to blob supers...yet major ones can't?,,, Or dont? Assuming this were true wouldnt they just figure it out stop using massive small fleets and just blob supers or dreads to counter? They certainly have the resources to make the needed tactic change.

That's silly, we all know in major alliances the (i think soon to be nerfed) tech moons are simply eaten by the overlords as an appetizer to ~elite pvp~ tears
Diomidis wrote:
EVE is too "defensive" a lot of years now...

Leaving nothing to chance - its 99% "if I cannot win without losing a single ship of my gang I won't fight", and making more and more blob friendly is too boring...boring even for the blobs, though they won't admit it - they prefer spending hours forming up to get 1/20 the kills vs. fleet size, than having fun roams with less people, more variety, more risk.

Yeah, it's funny when supercap blobs seem afraid of welpcanes.

We can get their tengus to fight against our drakes though, of course we throw away many drakes in various engagements, but it's still isk efficient, if I recall, though obviously not ~k/d ratio~ efficient.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-03-15 04:33:57 UTC
I wonder if the OP thinks hes playing a hero class in this game ....

It rather makes sense that 1000 people cant beat 7000 people ... No ?

Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#35 - 2012-03-15 10:32:40 UTC
Cedo Nulli wrote:


It rather makes sense that 1000 people cant beat 7000 people ... No ?



really.... you'd almost think that being better organised would give you and advantage...... Oo

it's reminds me of the QQ from carebears who petition the fact that their 8/10 site didn't drop a billion in loot.

RA will probably fail-cascade, tbh. most of their members play for the RMT and RMT income from actually playing eveonline isn't that great.

T-
uwai223
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-03-15 12:34:33 UTC
Posting in another "goons nerfed my titan" thread

We are required by our constitution to let the voters think they have a choice. That's democracy!
Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-03-15 19:01:43 UTC
Cyniac wrote:
Andski wrote:
black thorne alliance shitbird quoting ~Sun Tzu~

this thread can only go uphill


See? Told you it would be easy.

When you find yourself in a hole you dug, don't keep digging.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
M'nu
Vard School of Cryo Cuisine
#38 - 2012-03-15 23:44:34 UTC
Sapegu wrote:
So,

How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance?
If Biggest guns are nerfed...
1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!!

This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures...

Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV...

CCP... WAKE UP!!!



How many books have you read that get their point across the way you typed?

Also, getting a sick tight crew and going all out.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#39 - 2012-03-16 16:37:23 UTC
uwai223 wrote:
Posting in another "goons nerfed my titan" thread

How does it feel? How does it taste?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Sapegu
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-03-20 15:18:27 UTC
Bent Barrel wrote:
Sapegu wrote:
So,

How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance?
If Biggest guns are nerfed...
1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!!

This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures...

Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV...

CCP... WAKE UP!!!


omg what brilliant logic ... if they are not nerfed, the bigger alliance will have more of them anyway ...

check mate ?



Not chek mate...

As we can see, if not open your's... smaller alliances have BIG GNS TOO... and can use them better than big alliances...
If Big guns stop counting, then numbers are all an alliance has to show...
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