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More like the Titan nerf is trying to do something about average 0.0 battles looking like this: http://i.imgur.com/CY6x4.jpg

that was actually a move op

You do realize that that scenario applies to all subcaps? I for one enjoy subcaps, and would hate to be forced into a super just to be able to play the game.

Go CCP!

I don't want people who believe Titans are the "end game" to be playing my EVE Online. In fact, I don't want anyone who considers any activity to be "the end game" to be playing my EVE.

Nullsec politics is part of "the game". Lowsec piracy is part of "the game". Flying capital ships is part of "the game". Super capitals are tools to be used for specific purposes, just like a Torx screwdriver. You don't use a Torx to chisel a rebate, neither should you use a Titan to blap cruisers.

The sig res + target nerf is quite a nifty option.

Next up, using line of sight to nerf the blob. You want massive fleet fights? Bring discipline and tactics. No more blobbing and simply alpha-striking the biggest targets off the field first.

Being able to jump in an entire fleet and single handily instagib any capital ship isn't powerful?

Titans should not be able to blap logi's. End of story.

oh good some highsec players/npc corp members have decided to contribute their valuable opinions on titan balancing

Welcome to EVE: a game without levels; a game where bigger isn't better; a game where age means versatility, not strength; a game where everything (ideally) has a hard counter that eats its prey as popcorn. Top tip: nothing you know from any other MMO is of any value here — leave it behind because it will only cause you to fool yourself into thinking things that are not true and which were never intended to be true.

There is no lvl 85 in EVE and you cannot work your way there.

Same as before: whatever you want it to be. You decide your endgame, not the game itself. If you could decide on an endgame for yourself yesterday, you can do it today as well, so do that and get going. EVE isn't a game where the game starts once you reach the end anyway — it's a game where the journey towards that end is the real joy (because if you can't enjoy the journey, you're pretty much screwed: the end you're journeying towards will be no different than the journey itself, so if you can enjoy the latter, you will hate former once you get there).

Just because some people decided to make titans their end goal doesn't mean they shouldn't have immense weaknesses that others can exploit to blow them up. The trick is to not play to those weaknesses, but to play to their strengths instead, just like with any other ship. The entire problem that they're trying to fix is exactly what you describe: that they had no liabilities, even though they should.

The perfect measure for a well-balanced ship in EVE is when you rclick-activate it (or board it), and then have a brief pang of regret and second thoughts, thinking to yourself “but on the other hand…” while your eyes dart across the ships in the hangar that you didn't choose. The trick lies in balancing this against the ship having actual use so you can easily overcome that tiny doubt. As long as people continue to think of titans as some kind of end-game where that doubt is removed, they need to be continuously stomped on.

lol wut

Dessies ganking utterly tankless mining ships is an entirely different scenario than Titans blapping tanked out HICs or Logi.

For starters, the lone dessie don't "one shot" the Hulk. It takes a small fleet of them to do that, or several volleys from one pilot.

Sort of like how it should take a small fleet of ships or an extended engagement to pop a tanked logi or HIC.