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Incoming titan adjustments

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Ishen Villone
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#981 - 2012-03-13 23:33:12 UTC
Eve shouldn't just be about having a bigger blob! The only counter to titans should be having more titans!
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#982 - 2012-03-13 23:34:07 UTC
Win Sui wrote:


That said, Titan tracking needed changing - blapping blackbirds and rifters is stupid.


Blackbirds will still get blapped after this change.

Courthouse wrote:
Dez Affinity wrote:

I guess I should repeat that, yeah tracking is kind of great right now, but it really is the only consistent counter to vastly large amounts of subcaps right now so 'fixing it' creates problems too.

The CFC didn't exist in the form it exists in now until you guys decided to follow Billymerc in a hare-brained supercap heavy assault on VFK. Throwing 2000 people at that problem was the escalation counter. You adapted your titan fits to counter 2000 people.

Maybe next time don't force the issue and cause us to have to make lots of friends, because we're quite good at it.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAH.


Yea, goons never blobbed before we attacked VFK guys, you heard it here first.

You must be new around here.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#983 - 2012-03-13 23:38:01 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:


AHAHAHAHAHAHAH.


Yea, goons never blobbed before we attacked VFK guys, you heard it here first.

You must be new around here.


You talk like blobs have never happened before and are some sort of unstoppable wave of doom.
Ninevite
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#984 - 2012-03-13 23:38:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ninevite
CCP said a long time ago that they planned to nerf supercaps\titans and they were disappointed by seeing how many of these ships were out there already. Don't get why people are surprised this happened

Goons (while I dislike them) have played it smart and aligned themselves with CCP's vision. You idiots are bitching that Mittani controls CCP just because he is the CSM Chair; how naive are you? Seriously? It's more like Goon leadership actually listened to CCP talk about the future of this game, and have positioned their alliance to take advance of changing game mechanics.
Durr Hurrr Durr
Ivan Zhuk Likes Men
#985 - 2012-03-13 23:41:09 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Win Sui wrote:


That said, Titan tracking needed changing - blapping blackbirds and rifters is stupid.


Blackbirds will still get blapped after this change.





Then why the **** have you been crying all here and kugu for the last 4 hours.
Innominate
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#986 - 2012-03-13 23:42:15 UTC
Ishen Villone wrote:
Eve shouldn't just be about having a bigger blob! The only counter to titans should be having more titans!


Aren't you paying attention? The counter to titans is to feed them 200 dread kills to kill a couple of titans.
Travis Wells
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#987 - 2012-03-13 23:44:41 UTC
Hi i fell asleep for a few hours, in another news...


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Honey, where's my jar i got tears to collect.
Courthouse
Perkone
Caldari State
#988 - 2012-03-13 23:45:39 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH.


Yea, goons never blobbed before we attacked VFK guys, you heard it here first.

You must be new around here.


Point to the battle reports of massive CFC fleets flying to save the NC before you dropped 200 supers in VFK.

If you'd like to go back further than that you can join DBP and AJ Regard complaining about goonieblobs taking Detorid. Numbers have always been a factor.


Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#989 - 2012-03-13 23:47:22 UTC
Courthouse wrote:
Point to the battle reports of massive CFC fleets flying to save the NC before you dropped 200 supers in VFK.



Would posts about the line in the sand that shall not be crossed and fortress tribute suit you better?

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
#990 - 2012-03-13 23:47:41 UTC
My little alliance doesn't own one Titan but this change is drastic and too much. Changing the tracking is ok but I dont like how it nerfed my Moros also. IMO dreads should be buffed. Let them be RRed while in siege. Because right now dreads are too useless out of siege with too little damage and can't tank enough with its local reps in siege.

http://www.altaholics.blogspot.com

God-Emperor of Amarr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#991 - 2012-03-13 23:48:14 UTC
Someone is crying.
Teardrops glisten on your cheeks.
Internet Spaceships.
Heathkit
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#992 - 2012-03-13 23:49:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Heathkit
GeneralDisturbed wrote:

https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/623314 Oh wait.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/623239 Oh... Oh no.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/621694 Titans can't hit small ships.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/625987 That looks like a drake.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/625956 Clearly a dual LSE large sigged drake.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/625985 :ohdear:
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/625893 Oh oh god.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/629988 Look at all the LSE's on that drake.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/629987 Another one of those drakes.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/623437 No Problem At All.

Reposting these killmails for the titan thread. Anybody who cares enough can also hit the battles button for those kills, and see where fleets of hundreds were wiped out by 40 titans, while the titan group took generally 0 losses.

Anybody in this thread who thinks there wasn't a problem with titans has never spent a week having every single fight end with a titan blob being cyno'd in on your head the second you burn all the way over to wherever you're fighting, and hit grid. And being told to immediately turn around and go home, because there is nothing a subcap fleet can do to a titan blob but die as fast as the titans can cycle their guns.

Remember when they decided to park a small group of titans on a gate and just camp it with them, killing anything that came through? Yeah, no problem at all with titans.

Also, just wanted to say that I've been unsubbed for the past two years. Changes like this make me happy to be back.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#993 - 2012-03-13 23:49:58 UTC
Durr Hurrr Durr wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Win Sui wrote:


That said, Titan tracking needed changing - blapping blackbirds and rifters is stupid.


Blackbirds will still get blapped after this change.





Then why the **** have you been crying all here and kugu for the last 4 hours.


Because

Grath Telkin wrote:

This is effectively akin to CCP going "We don't like blobs, fleets are now limited to 50 members only, but we'll iterate on it later so that you can have our new vision of fleets, we don't know when, but we'll do it, we promise". You see, nothing would change really, its a bit more of a pain in the ass to basically achieve the same thing you have now.


It doesn't do anything but lower their scan res to 5 and make it nigh impossible to kill caps with them, their now stated intended role

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

Ninevite
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#994 - 2012-03-13 23:50:07 UTC
God-Emperor of Amarr wrote:
Someone is crying.
Teardrops glisten on your cheeks.
Internet Spaceships.


*standing ovation*
EnderCapitalG
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#995 - 2012-03-13 23:50:27 UTC
God-Emperor of Amarr wrote:
Someone is crying.
Teardrops glisten on your cheeks.
Internet Spaceships.


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Sirhan Blixt
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#996 - 2012-03-13 23:50:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Sirhan Blixt
GeneralDisturbed wrote:
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/623314 Oh wait.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/623239 Oh... Oh no.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/621694 Titans can't hit small ships.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/625987 That looks like a drake.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/625956 Clearly a dual LSE large sigged drake.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/625985 :ohdear:
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/625893 Oh oh god.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/629988 Look at all the LSE's on that drake.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/629987 Another one of those drakes.
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/623437 No Problem At All.

Reposting these killmails for the titan thread. Anybody who cares enough can also hit the battles button for those kills, and see where fleets of hundreds were wiped out by 40 titans, while the titan group took generally 0 losses.

Anybody in this thread who thinks there wasn't a problem with titans has never spent a week having every single fight end with a titan blob being cyno'd in on your head the second you burn all the way over to wherever you're fighting, and hit grid. And being told to immediately turn around and go home, because there is nothing a subcap fleet can do to a titan blob but die as fast as the titans can cycle their guns.

Remember when they decided to park a small group of titans on a gate and just camp it with them, killing anything that came through? Yeah, no problem at all with titans.

What-- somebody said they were all presenting zero transversal? How can one tell??

God-Emperor of Amarr wrote:
Someone is crying.
Teardrops glisten on your cheeks.
Internet Spaceships.
Bozl1n
Shiva
Northern Coalition.
#997 - 2012-03-13 23:51:24 UTC
Sentinel Eeex wrote:
Organa wrote:
Does ccp not seem to realize that there are only currently 2 ways to counter a vastly numerically Superior force? 1 bombers which die in droves but have some chance but generally arnt that effective in killing 1000 dudes with 200. and the titan blob.


Tell me, how would you kill 25 titans?



You guys need to put 150 odd of your 1600 man blob into dreads. And stop implying you have NO WAY to win WITHOUT bringing 50 titans yourself
Durr Hurrr Durr
Ivan Zhuk Likes Men
#998 - 2012-03-13 23:51:53 UTC
Cloora wrote:
but I dont like how it nerfed my Moros


It didn't you dumbshit, learn to read.



Quote:
XL turret tracking halved, siege module tracking penalty removed

This should generally make titan performance against small targets significantly worse, without seriously impacting their effectiveness against larger targets, or negatively impacting dreadnaughts in their common use-case (ie, in siege mode).
Courthouse
Perkone
Caldari State
#999 - 2012-03-13 23:52:52 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Courthouse wrote:
Point to the battle reports of massive CFC fleets flying to save the NC before you dropped 200 supers in VFK.



Would posts about the line in the sand that shall not be crossed and fortress tribute suit you better?

If all it took was posting to defeat the mighty Pandemic Legion then we won this game years ago.
EnderCapitalG
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1000 - 2012-03-13 23:53:52 UTC
Bozl1n wrote:
Sentinel Eeex wrote:
Organa wrote:
Does ccp not seem to realize that there are only currently 2 ways to counter a vastly numerically Superior force? 1 bombers which die in droves but have some chance but generally arnt that effective in killing 1000 dudes with 200. and the titan blob.


Tell me, how would you kill 25 titans?



You guys need to put 150 odd of your 1600 man blob into dreads. And stop implying you have NO WAY to win WITHOUT bringing 50 titans yourself


Because you should have to bring 3x the numbers to counter the same amount of other people, right?

And the lose nearly every ship to kill 2-3 targets if you are lucky.