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Is Suicide Ganking suddenly a problem?
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Father Void
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-03-16 21:42:20 UTC
It's all fair in love and war but I do get a little annoyed that I have zero counter for a suicide gank that doesn't target me.

Here's your billion isk Fenrir so you can move things around. No you don't get to add mods. No there is no counter. "Staying undocked" is not a counter.

The penalty for suicide ganking is far to lite. I think they need to rethink how negative and positive standing affect things.
bornaa
GRiD.
#22 - 2012-03-16 21:49:23 UTC
Problem is in t3 BCs and T2 exumers.
one ship can kill every hulk.
That's bad.
sorry, but, price difference is too big so that it can be normal.

p.s.
if you try to tell me that i am miner dont.
i dont have one sp in anything then minny combat skills.
[Yes, I'm an Amateur](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRa-69uBmIw&feature=relmfu)
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-03-16 22:11:30 UTC
Some people won't be satisfied until they can make isk by pressing a button once every 20 minutes in total safety and can fly a bold new line of mining supercaps in hi sec. Sad, but true.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Belleville
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-03-17 00:04:38 UTC
As a victim I have to say it's a problem. Not to a victim though. We need more ganking like this. This still makes me smile.

Kill mail

I wonder where my shuttle is now. I hope it made its new owner happy.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#25 - 2012-03-17 00:12:34 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:

What are these people's evidence that suicide ganking is now a new problem?


The only problem is that most forum geeks feel their opinion is so important it needs a new thread. So... someone starts a thread and 20 dickwads start the same one.

Same old, same old.

Tomorrow it will be something else slathered all over page one.

Mr Epeen Cool
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2012-03-17 00:19:02 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:

The only problem is that most forum geeks feel their opinion is so important it needs a new thread. So... someone starts a thread and 20 dickwads start the same one.

Hurhurhur

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#27 - 2012-03-17 00:49:01 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Some people won't be satisfied until they can make isk by pressing a button once every 20 minutes in total safety and can fly a bold new line of mining supercaps in hi sec. Sad, but true.

Then raiden. can continue using supercaps. Mining ones.

And be ~elite mining~.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#28 - 2012-03-17 00:59:54 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
The only problem is that most forum geeks feel their opinion is so important it needs a new thread. So... someone starts a thread and 20 dickwads start the same one.

Same old, same old.

Tomorrow it will be something else slathered all over page one.

Tell me more about titans.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#29 - 2012-03-17 01:22:03 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
The only problem is that most forum geeks feel their opinion is so important it needs a new thread. So... someone starts a thread and 20 dickwads start the same one.

Same old, same old.

Tomorrow it will be something else slathered all over page one.

Tell me more about titans.


I forgot to mention the brainiac little bees that can't manage to say anything without multiposting.

That tends to inflate threads way beyond their importance as well.

Mr Epeen Cool
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2012-03-17 03:13:00 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
The only problem is that most forum geeks feel their opinion is so important it needs a new thread. So... someone starts a thread and 20 dickwads start the same one.

Same old, same old.

Tomorrow it will be something else slathered all over page one.

Tell me more about titans.


I forgot to mention the brainiac little bees that can't manage to say anything without multiposting.

That tends to inflate threads way beyond their importance as well.

Mr Epeen Cool


Mr Epeen wants to be The Mittani so bad it's funny.

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Quick Response Posting Team
Friend of Miners

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#31 - 2012-03-17 04:18:12 UTC
We all knew this was going to happen when they released the tornado. How is this issue still on the front page of the forums?
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-03-17 04:21:01 UTC
Sisohiv wrote:
Blaster buff reduced the cost of insta popping all the tinfoil tanks in high sec.
Mackinaw, Hulk, Any T1 industrial or barge are now pretty much open season.

Pretty much why I dislike even seeing a barge or exhumer undock. Since it dies so easily and risk free to the guy shooting at it (hulk fits tank, shooter brings an extra destroyer *shrug* can't do much more then that), of course its going to be targeted since humans always go for the easiest objective. At least make an expensive ship more resistant to a single ganker in a T1 hull particularly since all that ship can do is suck up rocks (as if it was a "real" challenge to shoot it...like drinking beer and calling it an olypmic sport)...if not at least prevent the hulk from dropping mods and no T2 salvage Twisted then all you get is a shiny KM while the hulk turns into a true isk sink Lol. Poor miners want to drive a pointless ship, at least they could suck up the isk being shot into them.
Fly byNighter
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-03-17 06:13:05 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Or are all these new threads just alts on alt accounts of alt accounts?

After the insurance fraud fix, Tempests lost favor and Thrashers and Ruptures became the norm. Now, Tornados seem to be a great middle-option but i still see most ganks done by thrasher/rupture gangs, not 'nados.

What are these people's evidence that suicide ganking is now a new problem? Or have the carebears just gotten tired of complaining about cloaks?


GTH

Im an alt so to i don't attract grifer, or someone that just wants to troll. I see people that go after defenseless mining barges afraid of getting involved into real PVP. If I want to fight I would get my PVP toon and look for someone that wants to fight. it's alright though the less miners there are on the fields the more isk i make and the more the price of ore keeps going up. So in some way I salute the individuals that kill the Hulk in high sec. (if they had a better shield fit anyway, they would be able to survive until Concord gets there, it's the selfless miners that puts mine upgrade on that die.) Please continue as every little bit helps increase the prices and helps inflation, which always makes the price of base ores more!!!!
Gantz Tleilax
Divided Unity
#34 - 2012-03-17 06:17:41 UTC
Suicide ganking is only funny if it's being done by a clown.

(I get suicide ganked in hisec every here and there, kind of makes things interesting.)
Kojach Baumherr
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-03-17 06:49:54 UTC
its a problem if youre stupid enough to fly your quafe ship into jita P
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#36 - 2012-03-17 07:09:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Cipher Jones
Fly byNighter wrote:
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Or are all these new threads just alts on alt accounts of alt accounts?

After the insurance fraud fix, Tempests lost favor and Thrashers and Ruptures became the norm. Now, Tornados seem to be a great middle-option but i still see most ganks done by thrasher/rupture gangs, not 'nados.

What are these people's evidence that suicide ganking is now a new problem? Or have the carebears just gotten tired of complaining about cloaks?


GTH

Im an alt so to i don't attract grifer, or someone that just wants to troll. I see people that go after defenseless mining barges afraid of getting involved into real PVP. If I want to fight I would get my PVP toon and look for someone that wants to fight. it's alright though the less miners there are on the fields the more isk i make and the more the price of ore keeps going up. So in some way I salute the individuals that kill the Hulk in high sec. (if they had a better shield fit anyway, they would be able to survive until Concord gets there, it's the selfless miners that puts mine upgrade on that die.) Please continue as every little bit helps increase the prices and helps inflation, which always makes the price of base ores more!!!!


Defenseless ones are the most fun to kill, as they chose not to fit defenses.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#37 - 2012-03-17 07:22:23 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Mr Epeen wants to be The Mittani so bad it's funny.

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Quick Response Posting Team
Friend of Miners

Everyone wants to be The Mittani.
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
We all knew this was going to happen when they released the tornado. How is this issue still on the front page of the forums?

Oh, reminding me of Tornados... how's that 1400mm artillery alpha working out for you?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#38 - 2012-03-17 08:11:23 UTC
I like to think that I am a method of natural selection.

http://www.fcka.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12739987

The truth of it is that I'm actually just a ****.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#39 - 2012-03-17 08:17:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
FluffyDice wrote:
I like to think that I am a method of natural selection.

http://www.fcka.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12739987

The truth of it is that I'm actually just a ****.

Ooh, no tank at all. I wonder if that ice miner learned or maybe just bought another mack, fitted it in the same way and went back out to the ice fields.

Did it's pod warp into the belt again, by the way?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#40 - 2012-03-17 08:55:08 UTC  |  Edited by: FluffyDice
Alavaria Fera wrote:
FluffyDice wrote:
I like to think that I am a method of natural selection.

http://www.fcka.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12739987

The truth of it is that I'm actually just a ****.

Ooh, no tank at all. I wonder if that ice miner learned or maybe just bought another mack, fitted it in the same way and went back out to the ice fields.

Did it's pod warp into the belt again, by the way?

It did not. I podded him.

edit: scanning ice rocks is obviously the mark of a pro.
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